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adamb0nd
Posted: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 1:59:45 AM
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While the raks have some great damage potential now (hitting for up to 50 damage), they still do have the problem of being a 17D/30HP piece with savage. The few times ive seen them on the map, they get slaughtered. They need access to charging or swap to really be of much use.
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I ran a squad using Jakan High Priest, a major beat stick and a bunch of workers. It was all about sacrificing the workers so my beat could run all over the place getting into position for the next round to get odd some damage. It was pretty awesome stuff.
Sithborg
Posted: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 2:20:09 AM
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adamb0nd wrote:
While the raks have some great damage potential now (hitting for up to 50 damage), they still do have the problem of being a 17D/30HP piece with savage. The few times ive seen them on the map, they get slaughtered. They need access to charging or swap to really be of much use.


Not really. Savage does take work to be effective, true. But good door control and thinking out your movement, you can do fine. And the spawning of new Rakghouls is much better. And Celeste now has the ultimate finisher, to finish off a near dead fig, to add a new Rakghoul. They can be pretty useful, but sadly, Mice are far more popular now than Ugnaughts or Rodians. They aren't easy, but I have had mild sucess with Rakghouls before Celeste, and am sure I will have plenty with her now.
adamb0nd
Posted: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 2:27:23 AM
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I think the first instinct is to throw her and kun together for uber damage potential... but the points just arent there. I'm not sure who else you could add to a celeste/rak squad to to provide synergy. Maybe just a few pesky shooters or some body guards/draw fire.
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We'll see what the Sith Wrangler does... he might bring some goodness to the possibilty of the "Mourning Exar" squad. Yes, I just named it.
Woot!
Sithborg
Posted: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 2:54:05 AM
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I'd say forget the Rakghouls in the base squad. Use her with the Leviathon, or maybe a few Bomas. Use her Sith Alchemy to spawn Rakghouls. Use some of the other Sith/Fringe options to support Morne.

If you wanted to use Exar and Morne, I would say the same thing, forget about Raks in the base squad, use Morne to spawn them, who then are quite deadly.
Ronson
Posted: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 3:53:54 AM
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How about using Celeste in a rebel squad with Chewbacca Enraged Wookie? You could also use Luke to Levitate a Rakgoul into position then?
adamb0nd
Posted: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 6:22:22 AM
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Ronson wrote:
How about using Celeste in a rebel squad with Chewbacca Enraged Wookie? You could also use Luke to Levitate a Rakgoul into position then?


Not a bad use. I love that chewbacca, but hardly ever use him because i tend to lose him immediately due to his low def.
jedispyder
Posted: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 6:31:45 AM
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adamb0nd wrote:
Ronson wrote:
How about using Celeste in a rebel squad with Chewbacca Enraged Wookie? You could also use Luke to Levitate a Rakgoul into position then?


Not a bad use. I love that chewbacca, but hardly ever use him because i tend to lose him immediately due to his low def.

Low defense but high HP so it kinda works out. The big thing is to just keep him pretty far back away from everyone else. Yet with Celeste, he'll be +14 for 50 Damage from 12 squares away which can be pretty awesome. That'll hopefully allow her to use Sith Alchemy 2.
Weeks
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My favorite use of her is b&b. Outact turn a uggie into a rak who then turns all uggies into raks before the next init lol.
TheHutts
Posted: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 6:55:59 AM
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On that Polish site (http://www.gwiezdne-wojny.pl/news.php?13431,rogues-renegades-preview-2.html), is the flavour text on Mace official?

"RM - that Mace from the final set. It sucked so bad I can't even remember its name." - Grand Moff Boris
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A Vong without Force Immunity?
Sithborg
Posted: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:14:00 AM
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TheHutts wrote:
On that Polish site (http://www.gwiezdne-wojny.pl/news.php?13431,rogues-renegades-preview-2.html), is the flavour text on Mace official?

"RM - that Mace from the final set. It sucked so bad I can't even remember its name." - Grand Moff Boris


It appears to be an earlier draft, not the finalized version.

And, umm, oops?
jedispyder
Posted: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 8:04:47 AM
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That is definitely not the finalized version. We had a lot of trouble deciding on the flavor text and Les, who creates the cards, decided to have some fun and create this card. Plus that card does not have the finalized version of Vaapad Style Mastery, that was the first draft of the ability we wrote. No clue how the Polish site got that image as I don't think we even released the image of Mace to anyone. Anyone have a clue where they got their cards from?
swinefeld
Posted: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 8:09:49 AM
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Maybe one of Julian Assange's cohorts is a minis player. Unsure
jedispyder
Posted: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 8:17:08 AM
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swinefeld wrote:
Maybe one of Julian Assange's cohorts is a minis player. Unsure


We did have that huge leak with all the first draft DotF pieces, so it is possible someone from there could be a minis player ;)
countrydude82487
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adamb0nd wrote:
I think the first instinct is to throw her and kun together for uber damage potential... but the points just arent there. I'm not sure who else you could add to a celeste/rak squad to to provide synergy. Maybe just a few pesky shooters or some body guards/draw fire.


atris could be fun to throw with her too. Put in atris, an echani or 2 and let the rackgouls spawn. that way youve got your shooters enough points for tech and support, and melee attackers when needed
Sithborg
Posted: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 2:07:07 PM
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Weeks wrote:
My favorite use of her is b&b. Outact turn a uggie into a rak who then turns all uggies into raks before the next init lol.


That is a pretty good idea. And with her having Ambush, it combos pretty nicely into the next round. Add in Tarkin for a 4th attack, pretty fun.
Lord_Ball
Posted: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 9:38:43 PM
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jedispyder wrote:
That is definitely not the finalized version. We had a lot of trouble deciding on the flavor text and Les, who creates the cards, decided to have some fun and create this card. Plus that card does not have the finalized version of Vaapad Style Mastery, that was the first draft of the ability we wrote. No clue how the Polish site got that image as I don't think we even released the image of Mace to anyone. Anyone have a clue where they got their cards from?


If you search that sites forums you'll find cards for all the R&R figures.
wannabe mexican
Posted: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 9:48:35 PM
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Lord_Ball wrote:
jedispyder wrote:
That is definitely not the finalized version. We had a lot of trouble deciding on the flavor text and Les, who creates the cards, decided to have some fun and create this card. Plus that card does not have the finalized version of Vaapad Style Mastery, that was the first draft of the ability we wrote. No clue how the Polish site got that image as I don't think we even released the image of Mace to anyone. Anyone have a clue where they got their cards from?


If you search that sites forums you'll find cards for all the R&R figures.


Oh dear yeah. That is probably not good.
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