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urbanjedi
Posted: Sunday, May 19, 2013 1:05:33 PM
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I like the new Luke squad much better. It still seems like it will struggle to put out damage, but I think it is much more flexible than the original version.
fingersandteeth
Posted: Sunday, May 19, 2013 1:25:28 PM
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Chicago squads


squads


Gerry Russell
DarthNader
Meat bag Sausage Press

Mace WIndu LotLs
GOWK
HK-47 Ass. Droid
Doombot
R7
MSD x 3
Uggie Demo x 3



Shawn Murphy
Galactic Funk
Cesta like a boss

Boss Nass
Morrigan Corde
Lobot
Captain Tarpuls
Queen Amidala
R2 astromech
Gungan artillerist x 6
Uggie Demo x 3



Lillian Parker
Lillywan
Knowledge and defense
Anchorhead

Corran JM
Luke GH
Ganner rhysode
Lobot
General wedge
Dodonna
Uggie x 3



Bill German
Darth ischyros
Spec Force 4 “aka stupid mace and his stupid 10 hp”
cantina

Admiral ackbar supreme commander
Crix madine spec force commander
Spec force vanguard
Spec force infiltrator x 4
Spec force tech x 2
General Reiken
General Dodonna
R7 x 2
Uggie x 2


Jake Kolazcek
Sthlrd2
Bad Gas
Simulation Deck

Darth Cadeus SL
Jaq
Lobot
G.A.R.Y.
Czerka
Rodian Brute x 2
Sith recruit x 2
GAG guards x 2



Troy Lynnschfpherg
Captain Typo
Sequence step #13
Cantina

Morrigan Corde
Mon Mothma
Admiral Yularen
Kaltoonian Assassin x 6
Rodian assassin
Mas Amedda
Ughnaught x 3
Jabba crime lord

Jacob Bowles
Bane Sith
Politically sith
Rancor pit

Lord Krayt
Darth talon
Darth sideous
Kel dor x 2
Gran
Salacious crumb
Uggie demo x 4

Tim Ballard
Timmerb123
We Don’t go on Patrols
Cantina

Jaster Mareel
Kelborn
Mando Tactitian
Mando Scout x 2
Mando Gunsmith
R7
Mouse x 2
Uggie demo


Fingersandteeth
Protectors
Cliffside Citadel

28 Kelborn
27 Fenn Shysa
23 Mandalorian Captain
38 Mandalorian Scout x2
17 Mandalorian Protector
32 Mandalorian Gunsmith x2
12 Mandalorian Counter-Intelligence Officer
11 Death Watch Saboteur
3 Mouse Droid
9 Ugnaught Demolitionist x3

(200pts. 14 activations)


Swiss standings

Gerry 4-0 (9)
Tim -3-1 (8)
Deri 3-1 (7)
Jake 2-2 (6)
Troy 2-2 (5)
Shawn 2-2 (4)
Bill 2-2 (4)
Lilly 1-3 (3)
Jacob 1-3 (3)

Final
1 jake
2 Tim
3 Gerry
4 Deri
TheHutts
Posted: Sunday, May 19, 2013 6:32:06 PM
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Stats - power rating is my word for a rating of aggregated placings over the regional season. 1 means only 1st places in Regionals, 0 means only last places. Imperials are doing really well, Rebels and Vong are struggling a wee bit, and everyone else is somewhere in the middle.

Imperial, made the top4 4 times in 7 attempts (57%), overall power rating 0.69
Mandalorian, made the top4 3 times in 9 attempts (33%), overall power rating 0.44
New Republic, made the top4 4 times in 13 attempts (31%), overall power rating 0.54
Old Republic, made the top4 once in 4 attempts (25%), overall power rating 0.46
Rebel, made the top4 0 times in 3 attempts (0%), overall power rating 0.25
Republic, made the top4 3 times in 13 attempts (23%), overall power rating 0.55
Separatist, made the top4 4 times in 9 attempts (44%), overall power rating 0.56
Sith, made the top4 5 times in 14 attempts (36%), overall power rating 0.45
Yuuzhan Vong, made the top4 0 times in 7 attempts (0%), overall power rating 0.38

One possible trend this year is Dark Side domination. Imperials are the most successful faction, Sith are the most run faction, Separatists are doing well, and Vong have arguably improved somewhat on past years.
TheHutts
Posted: Monday, June 3, 2013 4:22:59 PM
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I realised in the shower yesterday that instead of just posting lots of numbers, the sensible idea is to make a graph. This graph includes all Regionals to date, except WNY where there aren't full results yet, as well as LowerHuttACon2013.

surf_rider56
Posted: Monday, June 3, 2013 6:57:19 PM
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TheHutts wrote:
I realised in the shower yesterday that instead of just posting lots of numbers, the sensible idea is to make a graph. This graph includes all Regionals to date, except WNY where there aren't full results yet, as well as LowerHuttACon2013.



Last February I asked for an opinion of the relative strengths of the factions after V-Set 5 and this is how the Bloo consensus rated them (simply for comparison to Hutts graph.

"Here are the average ratings of everyone's opinions so far."

1-9 Rankings with 1 being Top

1 Imperial: 1.75
1 Republic: 1.75
3 Separatist: 2.75
4 Old Republic: 3.75
5 Sith: 5.5
6 New Republic: 6.25
7 Rebel: 6.375
8 Mandalorian: 8.125

Interesting the the majority called the Imps tops, yet while we Said the Sith were middle of the road, that didn't stop a large group of playing them; guess they're the Sexy Choice for 2013.
TheHutts
Posted: Monday, June 3, 2013 7:58:20 PM
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surf_rider56 wrote:

Last February I asked for an opinion of the relative strengths of the factions after V-Set 5 and this is how the Bloo consensus rated them (simply for comparison to Hutts graph.


I just dug up that thread, and to be pedantic it's actually after v-set 4 - http://www.bloomilk.com/forums/default.aspx?g=posts&t=11767 - so before Sith got Caedus and before Mandos got Kelborn. Those pieces have been important factors in their respective factions' success this season. The two new Lukes have featured in a big chunk of New Republic squads too.
surf_rider56
Posted: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 6:01:24 AM
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TheHutts wrote:
surf_rider56 wrote:

Last February I asked for an opinion of the relative strengths of the factions after V-Set 5 and this is how the Bloo consensus rated them (simply for comparison to Hutts graph.


I just dug up that thread, and to be pedantic it's actually after v-set 4 - http://www.bloomilk.com/forums/default.aspx?g=posts&t=11767 - so before Sith got Caedus and before Mandos got Kelborn. Those pieces have been important factors in their respective factions' success this season. The two new Lukes have featured in a big chunk of New Republic squads too.


I stand Corrected. On the flip side, Caedus is a fun piece (I had him in a Booster Pull tourny) but he and Kelborn apparently haven't changed their faction's meta too much from what I've seen .... so far.
Galactic Funk
Posted: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 7:47:05 AM
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@surf rider: I don't know about that. Kelborn appears to be an auto include in Mando squads this season and they are getting run regularly. As for Caedus, TheHutts chart doesn't include the WNY Regional which was won by a Caedus/Malgus squad which gives him 2 Regional wins in two completely different builds. Those characters appear to be significant factors within their factions.
TheHutts
Posted: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 8:37:47 PM
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Galactic Funk wrote:
@surf rider: I don't know about that. Kelborn appears to be an auto include in Mando squads this season and they are getting run regularly. As for Caedus, TheHutts chart doesn't include the WNY Regional which was won by a Caedus/Malgus squad which gives him 2 Regional wins in two completely different builds. Those characters appear to be significant factors within their factions.


Here it is with WNY added. Cad Bane Bounty Hunter and Malgus have made the top 4s a few times too, from the latest set:

surf_rider56
Posted: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 8:50:22 PM
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TheHutts wrote:
Galactic Funk wrote:
@surf rider: I don't know about that. Kelborn appears to be an auto include in Mando squads this season and they are getting run regularly. As for Caedus, TheHutts chart doesn't include the WNY Regional which was won by a Caedus/Malgus squad which gives him 2 Regional wins in two completely different builds. Those characters appear to be significant factors within their factions.


Here it is with WNY added. Cad Bane Bounty Hunter and Malgus have made the top 4s a few times too, from the latest set:



... all of which actually proves my point in that a Kelborn was in our regional, yet even if he's an auto in Mando squads, they're still not winning, and while Caedus may be part of the two winning Sith squads, 2 out of 16 isn't much of a success rate; all of which means nothing if the Sith squads roll like I did this regional, but I digress Cool
TheHutts
Posted: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:33:54 PM
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surf_rider56 wrote:
... all of which actually proves my point in that a Kelborn was in our regional, yet even if he's an auto in Mando squads, they're still not winning, and while Caedus may be part of the two winning Sith squads, 2 out of 16 isn't much of a success rate; all of which means nothing if the Sith squads roll like I did this regional, but I digress Cool


That's 2 wins for Sith from 8 regionals - that's a good performance. No wins for Mandos yet, but they've made the top 4 four times in 8 events so far this year - last year, over 16 events, they made the top 4 four times as well. That's a big improvement, and imo Mandos and Sith are the big improvers this season. Seps are doing very well compared to last year too, but I think that's partly a reflection that, while they weren't bad last season (since they got lots of good things from wotc) but they got their biggest toys from the v-sets in the last couple of sets.

Really, I think Kelborn is Ganner/R2 Astromech/Dodonna good - he brings so much to the table that you'd hardly ever leave him out of a competitive squad.
shmi15
Posted: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 4:52:41 AM
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the Sith Have 7 Top 4 Appearances In 16 Attempts....IsThis Still Losing?
urbanjedi
Posted: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 11:33:50 AM
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well they are the second most played faction so should have the second most top 4s and 2nd most victories.
TheHutts
Posted: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 1:22:05 PM
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For reference, this is what it looked like last year after 8 Regionals:

Cassus fett
Posted: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 1:38:44 PM
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TheHutts wrote:
For reference, this is what it looked like last year after 8 Regionals:


Blink wow I can't believe that sith and NR haven't won but Mandos have
TheHutts
Posted: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 1:48:26 PM
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Cassus fett wrote:
Blink wow I can't believe that sith and NR haven't won but Mandos have


That's last years - that was the year that every faction won a Regional - Weeks and Tim Ballard won with the same Sith squad on the same day, and Wes won the last Regional with New Republic.
thereisnotry
Posted: Saturday, June 8, 2013 8:48:29 AM
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TheHutts wrote:
[quote=surf_rider56]Really, I think Kelborn is Ganner/R2 Astromech/Dodonna good - he brings so much to the table that you'd hardly ever leave him out of a competitive squad.
Yep, that was firmly the idea. ThumpUp I was one of the designers, and Kelborn is easily my favorite piece from that set. There are a bunch of other pieces that I really enjoy too, but Kelborn is just so much fun.

shmi15
Posted: Saturday, June 8, 2013 11:38:56 AM
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This Kokomo regional is going to add some interesting numbers to this Chart.
shmi15
Posted: Saturday, June 8, 2013 7:19:59 PM
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Indiana Regional!!

Top 4

Lou- Caedus Malus Vergere

Les- Double Lancer

Bronson finished 2nd with Caedus, Malgus, Vergere

And Tim B wins with Kyle K,Jan O, R23PO, and Luke GH.

Interesting regional, and congrats to Timmer!
TheHutts
Posted: Sunday, June 9, 2013 1:48:03 PM
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Also, in power ratings - Vong have a very respectable number for a faction that hasn't made the top 4 of a regional this season - they must be getting a lot of solid mid-table finishes:

Rebel: 0.22
Old Republic: 0.38
Mandalorian: 0.40
Yuuzhan Vong: 0.41
Republic: 0.48
Sith: 0.52
New Republic: 0.55
Separatist: 0.56
Imperial: 0.71
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