Guys, you keep acting like another errata for GOWK is a possibility. Unless we here such from Rob, it's not going to happen. It's either ban GOWK or don't ban him.

Also, Dean isn't trying to act superior here. From what I can tell, he is at his wit's end when it comes to GOWK. I think there's more humor in his posts than haughtiness.

When did someone call you a moron??? Thats were I draw the line, no one should call you that just because of your opinion. But like I said, there is nothing we can really dod about it, the chose as been made, we just have to wait and see.

For you to get your VR and UC someone will need to open the packs. And on your point on how you won't buy boxes because GOWK isn't banned. Just say it out loud how does it sound? Finally, if the projection that more people will quit buying boosters because of GOWK isn't banned; once again just say it out loud. I am in no way a finance guru, but as a successful business owner I had to take a production cost increase and still have to build my customer base without losing them. In my area none of us have a DCI rating in SWM we play by all the rules and because GOWK can beat me and a few other skilled players the store is selling more booster boxes. (even more now that I showed them all this site). To run on, I live in the middle of Nebraska so maybe my projection of GOWK making less skilled players able to compete against higher skilled players will help grow the customer base is wrong.


P.S. So what is next after the GOWK bitch is over. I have heard GGDAC is broken quite a bit and if SWM is going to ban figures because of there support I hope they don't make a Droid Rex or something good like that (sarcasim)

you seem to be missing the point. That is fine if your local players are better. But how long? How hard will it be for the better players going forward since they will basically know exactly what everyone will be running. Lobostele had a great story of one of their younger players contemplating quitting the game because of Gowk. Why? Because he does not want to be forced to play him or against him but still wants to win.

Leaving Gowk legal wont make it harder on the best players in the world. It will make their gaming life much easier. They will know exactly what to play and they will know exactly what they are facing. No surprses no worries of facing something that just makes their life difficult. The Meta will be constricted in a manner that they know what it always is. SWM has enjoyed the prospect of having a varied Meta so that players could bring off the wall stuff to a tourney and do well. I hear things like well Plagieous will handle Gowk in three turns. Well you know what so will Vader Unleashed and he has not been the answer. Good players can get around that. Especially when you give them a piece that makes that easy. I dont really see lesser skilled players competing against higher skilled players like you say. What I see is lesser skilled players thinking they are better than they really are and making bad tactical movements and decisions based on the piece. I see an entire learning curve that most older players had to struggle thru being thrown out the window. What I see is the gap not getting closer from Gowk but quite the opposite getting even wider than ever. You can throw the slippery slope argument in there if you want.... that is just kind of grasping at straws. Why would another figure suddenly need to be banned like GGDAC???? I am confused who said that? When you make a figure that basically takes one mechanic out of the game (Attacking) then you have a problem. I did not come to my position lightly over Gowk. I have spent over 8 months trying to get Rob to do something. No one else has spent that amount of time. How do I know this because I got the product before it was released to the public so I could work with the maps. In all that time Rob has not changed his course and does not want to errata Gowk further. So saying well if Rob will just do this..... well that is not an workable answer. He did something he made this monster. He has had one opps in 5 years and over 700 figures. I think that is awesome. Magic cannot claim that. Hell the proofreaders for the cards cannot even say that.

I fyou have a problem with that fact that I wont buy anymore cases and others aren't either well that is too bad. I play this competitively that is the part I enjoy. Me trying to outthink my opponent. So if I dont have to spend but about $30 to be competitive versus around $150.... you can bet I wont. That is 12 rounds of gold more per year for me and the boys...... SO I will be able to have the best of both worlds. I am loyal Wizards customer... but they have spent years making bad decisions. You dont have to believe about them just go check out the game Dreamblade....

I forgot, one more detail. 3 times Jonny was forced to double Cesta his own figures (GOWK bases, hits for 20, leaving them at 10 - so Jonny rightly uses the suicide Cesta) and 3 times he makes both saves. This slowed me down considerably and twice forced me to not kill off another Gungan to finish the one I was based with first.

I have no idea what the odds of that are, but he did it to me 3 different times. The first failed Cesta he had was on a 10hp Tarpals with Obi in base, which finally saved my GOWK once Cesta :)

Of course I was down to 40hps, and his Rex shot me 4 times, hitting them all, and guess how many SSM saves I made :)

i mean it would suck to have to ban any piece. (& i know now, i used to be on a wanna ban streak for any piece i didnt like or though was broken) And to say that if they were to ban him they would lose players is not right to me. I think that if they were to keep Gowk in the game then like someone said earlier in the thread that the game would become boring. And i dont know about anyone else but i stop doing something when i become bored with it.

I liked the idea of if anything atleast ban him atleast for a few more sets. Maybe to see if the Gowk craze dies down (Which i dont see it anytime soon) and to where in a few more sets seeing the new abilities to come out that maybe he wont be as good. But to keep him in this game and i'll repeat myself i wouldnt like to see any figure banned. But to keep him in this game i think would slowly kill the game.

Not even if people think he is an easy piece to beat or if your using him that he's an unstopple piece to beat. Just because in my opinion if he don't get banned i agree the game will become boring & its only a matter of time that people just dont wanna play the game anymore. In my opinion i think they should ban him.

Im not here to argue with anyone or anything like that, just wanted to speak my opinion because we are all players of StarWars Miniatures and i feel we all have a right to voice our opinions. So please dont take any of what i said to offense as it wasnt intended for that, it was just my opinion.

What are you all doing? This thread is based on fear... fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate... hate leads to sufferrrrring...

General Obi Wan-Kenobi
G O W K

Maybe they should make a new mini... I'm referring to the One that will bring balance to the Force...

"Scott, you just don't get it, do ya?"

Seriously, are you missing all this talk about not having the option to fix GOWK? He has already been issued errata by Rob. That's what has led to this mess. If the lead DCI content manager (Dean) can't get a hold of Rob, what chance does anyone else have? So guess what, this means the players have two choices for DCI play:

1) allow GOWK
2) Ban GOWK

That's it. At present, there is no fixing GOWK. That is NOT an option. Until Rob says it is, looking at a fix is pointless. The good of the competitive game hinges on giving GOWK the boot. That doesn't mean, however, that he would be banned for the remainder of the game. Nothing is forever.