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ewokballs88
Posted: Friday, January 29, 2010 5:27:27 PM
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It is sad to see that the sets will be discontinued (at least for a little while). But we all knew this was coming some day. I am personally happy that they even cam out with this many sets. So dont be discouraged and stop playing. Be happy with the tons of minis that they have made already. Everyday I see a new team that has been created out of the blue and is very competitive.
dnemiller
Posted: Friday, January 29, 2010 5:33:55 PM
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amsnow wrote:
@ dnemiller, username on your site is AndrewUnleashed, could you let me know the email that i input to make sure i didnt fat finger it


I activated your account for you. So try it now.
amsnow
Posted: Friday, January 29, 2010 7:29:39 PM
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dnemiller wrote:
amsnow wrote:
@ dnemiller, username on your site is AndrewUnleashed, could you let me know the email that i input to make sure i didnt fat finger it


I activated your account for you. So try it now.



looks like its workin fine now thanks alot ThumbsUp
dahatchetjeedi
Posted: Friday, January 29, 2010 8:03:26 PM
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Vsets...
I have a bad feeling about this...

As far as another company picking it up after vsets have been made, IT WILL NOT HAPPEN.
This is why no other company would pick up SWCCG.
If Vsets come out I will fully boycott them.
Vsets have ruined multiple games I have played over the years...

It saddens me to think of this happening to SW Minis too...
A dead game is one thing, please don't bury it with Vsets!
dnemiller
Posted: Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:46:04 AM
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dahatchetjeedi wrote:
Vsets...
I have a bad feeling about this...

As far as another company picking it up after vsets have been made, IT WILL NOT HAPPEN.
This is why no other company would pick up SWCCG.
If Vsets come out I will fully boycott them.
Vsets have ruined multiple games I have played over the years...

It saddens me to think of this happening to SW Minis too...
A dead game is one thing, please don't bury it with Vsets!


Mod Edit: Removed baiting comments.
Darth_Jim
Posted: Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:09:57 AM
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dahatchetjeedi wrote:


As far as another company picking it up after vsets have been made, IT WILL NOT HAPPEN.


I really don't understand this line of reasoning, nor how Vsets are bad for a discontinued game. Do you have anything to substantiate this?
dnemiller
Posted: Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:34:31 AM
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No he doesnt have anything because he is stating things that just are not so.

The reason there was no further SWCCG ban be laid at one company's feet. Can you guess???

WIZARDS OF THE COAST

It had nothing to do with virtual sets. It had everything to do with they got the license from LFL. They then produced a totally inferior game that consumers hated. No one bought it. They quit producing but still held the license to it.

The fact that virtual sets for the Decipher are out there had nothing to do with it.

Wizards made a crap card game and after people played a great game from Decipher they just werent spending their money on a terrible game. Plus they had zero desire to start all over.

Claiming that virtual sets tanked SWCCG is just wrong and makes the Decipher Players committee look bad. They should be praised not smeared they have kept the game going longer than it was originally produced which is no easy feat.

Posting junk like that really doesnt help the community stick together it just makes things worse.
Tirade
Posted: Saturday, January 30, 2010 5:19:25 AM
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dahatchetjeedi wrote:
Vsets...
I have a bad feeling about this...

As far as another company picking it up after vsets have been made, IT WILL NOT HAPPEN.
This is why no other company would pick up SWCCG.
If Vsets come out I will fully boycott them.
Vsets have ruined multiple games I have played over the years...

It saddens me to think of this happening to SW Minis too...
A dead game is one thing, please don't bury it with Vsets!


Way to support the community effort. Man, you sure have a negative attitude.
ork_fudgepacker
Posted: Saturday, January 30, 2010 7:04:09 AM
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dahatchetjeedi wrote:
Vsets...
I have a bad feeling about this...

As far as another company picking it up after vsets have been made, IT WILL NOT HAPPEN.
This is why no other company would pick up SWCCG.
If Vsets come out I will fully boycott them.
Vsets have ruined multiple games I have played over the years...

It saddens me to think of this happening to SW Minis too...
A dead game is one thing, please don't bury it with Vsets!


that's a great positive attitude when people are trying to help the game. so do you always put down ideas or is it just ideas that you didn't come up with?
amsnow
Posted: Saturday, January 30, 2010 7:08:40 AM
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ok guys, i also disagree with hatchet, but at the end of the day its just his opinion which he is entitled to. its no reason to start a forum war. and if he decides not to support the community then he doesnt have to be a part of it, thats on him not us
Blizzard Scout 1
Posted: Saturday, January 30, 2010 7:39:51 AM
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amsnow wrote:
ok guys, i also disagree with hatchet, but at the end of the day its just his opinion which he is entitled to. its no reason to start a forum war. and if he decides not to support the community then he doesnt have to be a part of it, thats on him not us

Agreed.
Just because someone does not agree with an idea, especially due to past experiences, its not enough of a reason to Badger someone. Its not being negative if someone gives their explanation as to why they feel this way, Like Hatchet did in the ethics thread.
Maybe its time that the people on this site start getting more of an idea of the future of this game, instead of hearing that Gen Con is still a go. All I'm saying is that its good that we got the priority out of the way, now its time to act like a community instead of behaving like Separatists.
mercenary_moose
Posted: Saturday, January 30, 2010 8:12:36 AM
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amsnow wrote:
ok guys, i also disagree with hatchet, but at the end of the day its just his opinion which he is entitled to. its no reason to start a forum war. and if he decides not to support the community then he doesnt have to be a part of it, thats on him not us


That's the spirit.

I haven't been gaming for all that long in the grand scheme of things (around two years) and I haven't seen a dead game get wiped out by virtual sets. However, I could easily see it happening. If, for example, a GOWK-type fellow came along and started owning the meta, players would call for him to be banned or something along those lines. What if the creator(s) of the broken mini felt otherwise and didn't effectively change it or counter it? You could have the community tearing itself apart and possibly destroying the game in the process over the mini. If you thought the whole plethora of GOWK fights, which were overall not so much of flame wars as an endless tire fire, were bad, imagine what would happen if there was a person or a group of people in the community to pin the blame directly upon. It would NEVER stop.

In spite of that, and all the other flaws that come with them, virtual sets must be used. A dead and never-shifting meta would be a quick end to the game.
Darth_Jim
Posted: Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:05:43 AM
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amsnow wrote:
ok guys, i also disagree with hatchet, but at the end of the day its just his opinion which he is entitled to. its no reason to start a forum war. and if he decides not to support the community then he doesnt have to be a part of it, thats on him not us


I'm not interested in a forum war either. All I asked for is some substantiation for his position. Forums are for discussions; discussions often involve differing viewpoints. His viewpoints is different and if he has something to help move the game forward then let's hear why he is saying what he's saying. Just making the negative statements he's making don't help the community at all, but if he has some substantial knowledge or experience he's willing to share, then that would certainly be helpful.
dahatchetjeedi
Posted: Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:10:33 AM
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Shows how mature people can be...
lmao

Anyhow, the CCG WAS going to be picked up by another company actually...
Until certain gamers decided they wanted to take matters into thier own hands and drop a Vset less than 2 months after went under...
I have also tried the Vsets for SWCCG and they are very disappointing...
Some just ridiculous!

As far as me "bashing" the communtiy, you have it twisted.
I care a lot about this game.
I also want to see it picked up by another company, which would [hypothetically] make MOTF NOT the last set.

As I said, from experience with multiple card games, this is not a good idea...
I have been an avid player of table top and card games for about 20 years now.
I am only speaking in the game's best interest.
I too want to see the game live on, but please, save the Vsets for a last resort!
defender390
Posted: Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:25:51 AM
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I officially offer the use of my custom cards.
Blizzard Scout 1
Posted: Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:31:58 AM
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Those are Awesome.
dnemiller
Posted: Saturday, January 30, 2010 12:03:48 PM
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Blizzard Scout 1 wrote:
amsnow wrote:
ok guys, i also disagree with hatchet, but at the end of the day its just his opinion which he is entitled to. its no reason to start a forum war. and if he decides not to support the community then he doesnt have to be a part of it, thats on him not us

Agreed.
Just because someone does not agree with an idea, especially due to past experiences, its not enough of a reason to Badger someone. Its not being negative if someone gives their explanation as to why they feel this way, Like Hatchet did in the ethics thread.
Maybe its time that the people on this site start getting more of an idea of the future of this game, instead of hearing that Gen Con is still a go. All I'm saying is that its good that we got the priority out of the way, now its time to act like a community instead of behaving like Separatists.


Good Gravy I have come over here trying to keep people aware but really I am done. I get so sick of the same two people giving the same lip service.

At no point do I see as boycotting a positive step.

So good boycott it. All you have done is prove that I am too busy to worry about trying to please everyone.
Blizzard Scout 1
Posted: Saturday, January 30, 2010 12:08:03 PM
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I'm not sure where that is directed, but I really don't see anyone trying to boycott your ideas.
I for one have already put my vote of confidence in for you to be the Head Chair.
I don't see anyone attacking or going at you, so i'm really confused.
Blizzard Scout 1
Posted: Saturday, January 30, 2010 12:13:01 PM
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Blizzard Scout 1
Posted: Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:06:04 PM
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@ Moose.
I don't think that your 'rant' is uncalled for.
it brings up a valid point. We have to take into consideration that yes, there needs to be a governing body. I can see where chaos will ensue if there is a complete disagreement on what needs to be done, and I think that we need to, as a community, put out a bit of confidence that our interests are being addressed, Now there is no easy way to do this, but it needs to be done.
there is a poll up right now that is asking for the opinions of every member of this site on what we should do.
I for one am a Comic Book illustrator, and don't mind working on the art for virtual sets. alot of us are talented in some way or another that could prove to be useful in keeping this game breathing. I think that people need to be appointed by us to see this through.
I know who I would be putting my vote in for the head of the committee, as he has proven for a couple of years that he can handle the work load, and take flack from the masses. That person is Dnemiller.
Not alot of people will agree with my opinion, but we have a person who does love this game, and making the moves to make us happy, whether folks like him or not.
After that, I think some sort of vote needs to be held where other members are appointed positions, in order to have some balance, you have to all groups come to some sort of agreement.
Blizzard Scout 1
Posted: Saturday, January 30, 2010 12:19:38 PM
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dnemiller wrote:


At no point do I see as boycotting a positive step.

So good boycott it. All you have done is prove that I am too busy to worry about trying to please everyone.

And this confuses me as well.
How can anyone Boycott anything if there is nothing to Boycott?
Is there something to Boycott that no one knows about?
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