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Lord_Ball
Posted: Monday, October 22, 2012 11:48:17 AM
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Perhaps he'd gain something else in addition to Pilot (though they didn't say he'd necessarily be playable - just boosted), but certainly him lacking Pilot was certainly one of, if not the largest complaint of UH.
adamb0nd
Posted: Monday, October 22, 2012 12:06:20 PM
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Lord_Ball wrote:
Perhaps he'd gain something else in addition to Pilot (though they didn't say he'd necessarily be playable - just boosted), but certainly him lacking Pilot was certainly one of, if not the largest complaint of UH.


You know, Pilot and one other decent SA would make him pretty solid. His stats for 17 points aren't terrible... he just doesnt DO anything. If he could get pilot and disruptive or something like that, i think he'd be worth playing.
markedman247
Posted: Monday, October 22, 2012 12:31:32 PM
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The question is, "Why bring a Lando to boost Nien when you can make a better one?" Nien wasn't great when he came out. He had nothing but Unique. It was as if the proof card got out before the piece was fleshed out. If Lando comes out, then he should boost a new Nien. I mean how many Uniques have nothing to offer but their name (ie: CEs, SAs,or Force)?
TheHutts
Posted: Monday, October 22, 2012 12:50:05 PM
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markedman247 wrote:
The question is, "Why bring a Lando to boost Nien when you can make a better one?" Nien wasn't great when he came out. He had nothing but Unique. It was as if the proof card got out before the piece was fleshed out. If Lando comes out, then he should boost a new Nien. I mean how many Uniques have nothing to offer but their name (ie: CEs, SAs,or Force)?


I'm largely happy to replace older, obsolete pieces, and largely agree with you, but it is tough on the designers when there are other opinions like:

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Grievous JH is bad? What? Yeah, he isn't the greatest unit but he had potential. Quad, twin with maybe a new commander that would let him get greater mobile and/or momentum? Back in business without batting an eye!!! But not anymore, now we have something 100% better, so he is permanently shoeboxed. What I am getting at is there is no mini beyond saving yet it seems some are considered that way. When you bury a mini forever in the box it is not a good thing in any game.


It seems like it's difficult to please everyone! He is a different case than Grievous though; a playable fighting Grievous is a great idea, while Nien Numb probably deserves to be a gimmicky/marginally useful piece that sees occasional gametime.
Sithborg
Posted: Monday, October 22, 2012 1:46:53 PM
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Keep in mind, playable doesn't necessarily mean top tier. A new Nien Nunb is always possible, but I would guess it is fairly low priority for a lot of the designers.
markedman247
Posted: Monday, October 22, 2012 1:48:41 PM
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TheHutts wrote:
markedman247 wrote:
The question is, "Why bring a Lando to boost Nien when you can make a better one?" Nien wasn't great when he came out. He had nothing but Unique. It was as if the proof card got out before the piece was fleshed out. If Lando comes out, then he should boost a new Nien. I mean how many Uniques have nothing to offer but their name (ie: CEs, SAs,or Force)?


I'm largely happy to replace older, obsolete pieces, and largely agree with you, but it is tough on the designers when there are other opinions like:

Quote:
Grievous JH is bad? What? Yeah, he isn't the greatest unit but he had potential. Quad, twin with maybe a new commander that would let him get greater mobile and/or momentum? Back in business without batting an eye!!! But not anymore, now we have something 100% better, so he is permanently shoeboxed. What I am getting at is there is no mini beyond saving yet it seems some are considered that way. When you bury a mini forever in the box it is not a good thing in any game.


It seems like it's difficult to please everyone! He is a different case than Grievous though; a playable fighting Grievous is a great idea, while Nien Numb probably deserves to be a gimmicky/marginally useful piece that sees occasional gametime.


Trust me. I am more in the "Try to boost the old when you can." This is more for the iconic pieces that have some significance. But, Nien has nothing. Just a unique with a name. At 17 points, he is far more useful as a reboot. I mean a piece that grants "Pilot" like Light Tutor grants FPs wouldn't help because it would automatically go to someone better. If you grant Camaraderie for Nien Numb, then you are spending points to boost a 17 pt piece. Don't get me wrong. I am sure the design team has enough vision to not create such a niche piece for a even more narrow niche piece.
Bob Chizo
Posted: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 3:42:40 PM
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EmporerDragon wrote:
Still, a kid Anakin wouldn't be that hard to make. He'd just be more of a support piece than anything. Something like:

Anakin Skywalker, Slave:
Faction: Fringe
Cost: 12
HP: 30
Def: 14
Attk: +0
Damage: 10

Unique
Melee Attack
Repair 20
Industrial Repair 30
Emergency Maintenance (Adjacent Droid allies gain Avoid Defeat)

FP 2


I don't think they should ever make a piece with the word "Slave." Just my opinion.
R5Don4
Posted: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 3:54:07 PM
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Bob Chizo
Posted: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 4:34:19 PM
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R5Don4 wrote:


Yeah, I didn't really like that SA name. I would have gone with a different name (I don't know what).
EmporerDragon
Posted: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:38:30 PM
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Bob Chizo wrote:


I don't think they should ever make a piece with the word "Slave." Just my opinion.


To be fair, my idea is representative of Anakin while he was owned by Watto, so Slave makes for an appropriate subtitle. Anakin Skywalker, Indentured Servant just doesn't sound right, and I'd cringe at calling him Ani.

As for the various comments about how his healing capabilities are a bit strong, I feel that with the overall powercreep in the game, it's not worth using a healer unless they are either dirt cheap or can heal 20+ damage. Otherwise, it's just better to put in another offensive unit than a healer. Sure, he obsoletes Gha a bit, but people only really used him when they had enough droids to effectively make him 6 points or less.
TheHutts
Posted: Thursday, October 25, 2012 7:12:23 PM
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So this week's previewed names were:
Coleman Trebor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBsNc_KM5MI)
Jedi Training Droid

Apparently, the first full stat previews are coming out at Minis-Mania next weekend.
dreadtech
Posted: Friday, October 26, 2012 2:57:06 PM
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TheHutts wrote:
So this week's previewed names were:
Coleman Trebor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBsNc_KM5MI)
Jedi Training Droid

Apparently, the first full stat previews are coming out at Minis-Mania next weekend.


OK so more names cool, is it possable to give set numbers with names on SHNN?
TheHutts
Posted: Friday, October 26, 2012 3:57:04 PM
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dreadtech wrote:
TheHutts wrote:
So this week's previewed names were:
Coleman Trebor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBsNc_KM5MI)
Jedi Training Droid

Apparently, the first full stat previews are coming out at Minis-Mania next weekend.


OK so more names cool, is it possable to give set numbers with names on SHNN?


I think you're missing:
Mandalorian Technician
Dathomir Witch

off your front page list. And is Jedi Training Droid definitely Republic - I have no idea?
Sithborg
Posted: Friday, October 26, 2012 4:02:46 PM
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I will give you set numbers once the full previews start.
501 Trooper
Posted: Saturday, October 27, 2012 9:35:32 AM
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dreadtech wrote:
Sithborg wrote:
On SHHN last Thur, I confirmed that Krynda Draay and Boss Nass are in the set.



ThumpUp Already got a Boss Nass figure so really happy to read that.
Did you give set numbers; for them?


What is the proxy for Boss Nass?
dreadtech
Posted: Saturday, October 27, 2012 12:42:50 PM
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501 Trooper wrote:
dreadtech wrote:
Sithborg wrote:
On SHHN last Thur, I confirmed that Krynda Draay and Boss Nass are in the set.



ThumpUp Already got a Boss Nass figure so really happy to read that.
Did you give set numbers; for them?


What is the proxy for Boss Nass?


No idea, I have a custom figure for boss.
dreadtech
Posted: Saturday, October 27, 2012 12:46:05 PM
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TheHutts wrote:
dreadtech wrote:
TheHutts wrote:
So this week's previewed names were:
Coleman Trebor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBsNc_KM5MI)
Jedi Training Droid

Apparently, the first full stat previews are coming out at Minis-Mania next weekend.


OK so more names cool, is it possable to give set numbers with names on SHNN?


I think you're missing:
Mandalorian Technician
Dathomir Witch

off your front page list. And is Jedi Training Droid definitely Republic - I have no idea?


No idea about faction for the JTD, so just added it to a list I did put that the set number could change.

I will add Mandalorian Technician & Dathomir Witch to the list.
Darthbane53
Posted: Sunday, October 28, 2012 9:52:47 AM
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dreadtech wrote:
501 Trooper wrote:
dreadtech wrote:
Sithborg wrote:
On SHHN last Thur, I confirmed that Krynda Draay and Boss Nass are in the set.



ThumpUp Already got a Boss Nass figure so really happy to read that.
Did you give set numbers; for them?


What is the proxy for Boss Nass?


No idea, I have a custom figure for boss.


Ill have to wait to see the stats, but didnt I make him for you?Flapper Starting to maybe wish I had my own now lol.
adamb0nd
Posted: Sunday, October 28, 2012 4:55:39 PM
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Gha maybe? Would be my guess.
markedman247
Posted: Sunday, October 28, 2012 5:02:21 PM
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adamb0nd wrote:
Gha maybe? Would be my guess.


I figure Jabba the Hutt or crime lord.
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