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V-set 9 - Early 2015 - What pieces would you like to see? Options
AndyHatton
Posted: Monday, March 10, 2014 12:44:37 PM
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General_Grievous wrote:
After watching some Clone Wars on Netflix I am all for more generic clone wars heroes, specifically:


Commander Wolfe (medical supplies, communication supplies, CE to make order 66 healers or avoid defeat)


+1
I just like the Clones in general, butI'm such a fan of most of the unique clones from Clone Wars (unique Clones? that can't be right...)

Commander Fox and his specific Clones from V-set 7 were done so well that I'd love to see more Clone Commander+Clones. WotC did it a lot and the V-set designers less so (and obviously I think that is why, no lack of love there already.)
General_Grievous
Posted: Monday, March 10, 2014 2:26:28 PM
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AndyHatton wrote:
General_Grievous wrote:
After watching some Clone Wars on Netflix I am all for more generic clone wars heroes, specifically:


Commander Wolfe (medical supplies, communication supplies, CE to make order 66 healers or avoid defeat)


+1
I just like the Clones in general, butI'm such a fan of most of the unique clones from Clone Wars (unique Clones? that can't be right...)

Commander Fox and his specific Clones from V-set 7 were done so well that I'd love to see more Clone Commander+Clones. WotC did it a lot and the V-set designers less so (and obviously I think that is why, no lack of love there already.)


Seems weird to +1 my own as well but I agree with this in your context too. Maybe a commander and then a generic member of their group. Even having Jedi that work with that sub faction too I.E.: Asoka Tano/Anikin Skywalker Commander of the 501st
General_Grievous
Posted: Monday, March 10, 2014 2:44:26 PM
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DonStamos wrote:
*Transplanted from the Vset 8 thread*

Great to see Deathwielded likes the "Sith San Hill" idea. Anything to stretch out activations for them, really.

DonStamos wrote:
Yun Yammka wrote:

Somes Vongs !!! :)

Unique...
Vongerella, Sith
Malik Carr
Chine-Kal
Yuuzhan'tar High Prefect Drathul
Denua Ku
Czulkang Lah
Liaan Lah, Nei Rin Bodyguard
Nagme, Master Shaper
Mongei Shai
Neira Shai
Sakanga Shai
Choka Skell, Ossus Warrior
Tla
Krag Val, Elite Warrior
Tsaak Vootuh
B'Shith Vorrik
Eshin Worr
Zakar, Tsalok Subaltern

and non-Unique...
Yun-Yuuzhan worshiper
Yun Ne'Shel Fanatic
Yun Shuno Fanatic Shamed One
Yorik-et (Huge)
Yuuzhan Vong Warrior with Basal Dovin
Geneticist with Villip
Yuuzhan Vong Tactician

I work on many of those characters to create customs, but to have one of them in a V-Set to play with is more interesting :)



+1 to any of these (especially B'sith Vorrik. especially especially B'sith Vorrik.)
+1 to Mara Jade Skywalker, Force Spirit
+1 to new epic set (even pdf-only) with Grievous (the one a few posts up), Abeloth, Weapon-swapper Katarn (awesome idea)

Also:

World Brain
new Soontir Fel
Voss Parck
Clone Emperor
Luke Skywalker, Sith Apprentice (or Supreme Commander)
Ania Solo
Warlord Zsinj
UnuThul
Jagged Fel, Imperial Head of State
Empress Marasiah Fel
Beldorian the Splendid
Passel Argente
Gizor Dellso
Darth Scabrous
Cal Omas
Gar Stazi
Githany
Ozzik Sturn (only major TFU character not represented, IIRC)
Duchess Satine
Kyp Durron, Jedi Master
new Shaak Ti
new Kazdan Paratus
Aing-Tii Monk (non-unique)
Slashrat (non-unique)
Antarian Rangers
Zann Consotrium Ewok bomb-maker

Plenty of good ideas in the set list transmission thread, really.


+1 to all of these excellent ideas, especially epic set with Grievous!

Also some more high wants:

Imperial Missionary (how do we not have the one sub-faction missing from legacy yet, especially with all the knights kicking about)

And from KOTOR:


Pazaak Player
7
HP 10
Def 17
Atk 7
Dmg 10
SA
Gamblers Luck
Karmic Luck
Distraction

Czerka Droid Dealer
30
SA
Droid Reinforcements 20
Light Droid Upgrades (medium droid allies gain flamethrower 10 while within 6 squares of this character)
Heavy Droid Upgrades (large droid allies gain Ion Shielding while within 6 squares of this character)

Lastly and biggest of all, another epic set!

Those cards are often played and much loved in our group. I think there is enough support and interest to generate financial support in this. Some options:

OR Exile
Sith Cadeus
Republic Obi-Wan or Ani
Separatist GRIEVOUS!!!
Imperial Reborn Palpatine/Dark Luke (fan boy asks for NK1 Necrosis haha)
Rebel Han Solo, Hero
New Republic Kyle Katarn
Vong Shimmra
Mando Jango Fett, Mandalore
Fringe Abeloth!

Come on Vset designers, do it!!! Haha
harryg
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Yayax Squad!!!!!! They're mentioned on Kal Skirata's card! Make it so!
FlyingArrow
Posted: Monday, March 10, 2014 4:28:42 PM
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harryg wrote:
Yayax Squad!!!!!! They're mentioned on Kal Skirata's card! Make it so!


Yes. Fulfill all the prophecies.

Something that affects Ithorians (Roron Corobb prophecy). A force power that grants an extra attack instead of moving (Garm Bel Iblis prophecy).


Force Attacks (Force X, usable only on this character's turn: this character can make exactly X attacks instead of moving)

(Glossary to clarify this does not stack with Double/Triple/Extra/Twin attacks.)
leshippy
Posted: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 5:09:21 AM
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PrimeClone wrote:
AndyHatton wrote:
A new AT-RT or a boost or Mace on AT-RT or something!


Mace on AT-RT with dismount.

Cheers


I think the big problem here is two fold. one Mace LOTLS. two Speed 8 on ATRTs. Combined probably too powerful.
markedman247
Posted: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 6:28:17 AM
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leshippy wrote:
PrimeClone wrote:
AndyHatton wrote:
A new AT-RT or a boost or Mace on AT-RT or something!


Mace on AT-RT with dismount.

Cheers


I think the big problem here is two fold. one Mace LOTLS. two Speed 8 on ATRTs. Combined probably too powerful.


I agree on Mace At/Rt but he keeps his butt on the AT/RT or cost to the point that a cheaper Mace can be created.

Possible suggestion: A Mace, Padawan or Jedi Knight with an affinity for Sora Bulq.
harryg
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New Depa Billaba
New Even Piell
Tyvokka
New At-At
Bull Rancor
Bazel Warv
New Bail Organa
Sebulba
Dexter Jettster
Karina the Great
Orn Free Taa
New Ben Skywalker
New Qui-Gon
Umbaran vehicles (that centipede thing, hover tank)
Republic C-3P0
FlyingArrow
Posted: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 12:52:14 PM
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markedman247 wrote:
leshippy wrote:
PrimeClone wrote:
AndyHatton wrote:
A new AT-RT or a boost or Mace on AT-RT or something!


Mace on AT-RT with dismount.

Cheers


I think the big problem here is two fold. one Mace LOTLS. two Speed 8 on ATRTs. Combined probably too powerful.


I agree on Mace At/Rt but he keeps his butt on the AT/RT or cost to the point that a cheaper Mace can be created.

Possible suggestion: A Mace, Padawan or Jedi Knight with an affinity for Sora Bulq.


Best of both worlds: Cost 64 Mace on AT-RT. Take 63 point Clone Strike Mace or take a 40 point new Mace that is yet to be created... presumably worse than Clone Strike Mace but that serves a totally different role so you can choose which to take depending on the situation.
DieAndBeMetal
Posted: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 12:56:00 PM
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TimmerB123 wrote:
DieAndBeMetal wrote:
Here's a couple very high on my list.
1- A new Dash Rendar. He has yet to be remade. In the books, his shooting was flawless. In minis, he can't hit the broad side of a bantha.


He has been remade. There are 2 versions of him. The first one is utter crap, and the second one is still one of the best figures in the game (despite how much complaining there is about his low attack score). Built in double twin opportunist GMA is an AWESOME package, and the fact that he's fringe and easily boostable makes him very very good. If he had a base 10-12 attack he'd be broken.


Well yes, I agree the Renegade Smuggler was a great piece. He just doesn't fit my idea of Dash though. Maybe put him on a vehicle instead? In the first part of Shadows of the Empire, it talks about him racing Han (although losing, but slightly).
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Posted: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 5:30:44 PM
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FlyingArrow wrote:
markedman247 wrote:
leshippy wrote:
PrimeClone wrote:
AndyHatton wrote:
A new AT-RT or a boost or Mace on AT-RT or something!


Mace on AT-RT with dismount.

Cheers


I think the big problem here is two fold. one Mace LOTLS. two Speed 8 on ATRTs. Combined probably too powerful.


I agree on Mace At/Rt but he keeps his butt on the AT/RT or cost to the point that a cheaper Mace can be created.

Possible suggestion: A Mace, Padawan or Jedi Knight with an affinity for Sora Bulq.


Best of both worlds: Cost 64 Mace on AT-RT. Take 63 point Clone Strike Mace or take a 40 point new Mace that is yet to be created... presumably worse than Clone Strike Mace but that serves a totally different role so you can choose which to take depending on the situation.



Ok then why not mace on AT-RT with vehicle SA? same as durge, (love that piece)

cheers
FlyingArrow
Posted: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 6:31:45 PM
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Yes, that's what I meant. I misread your earlier comment of 'Dismount' as 'Vehicle'.
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harryg wrote:
New Depa Billaba
New Even Piell
Tyvokka
New At-At
Bull Rancor
Bazel Warv
New Bail Organa
Sebulba
Dexter Jettster
Karina the Great
Orn Free Taa
New Ben Skywalker
New Qui-Gon
Umbaran vehicles (that centipede thing, hover tank)
Republic C-3P0


Great list +1 especially to Karina the great! I imagine her similar to the Voxyn queen in regards to Geonosian reinforcements except with a special ability to hand out Brain Worm to Geonosian allies which turn living enemies into zombies.
leshippy
Posted: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 10:02:01 AM
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PrimeClone wrote:
FlyingArrow wrote:
markedman247 wrote:
leshippy wrote:
PrimeClone wrote:
AndyHatton wrote:
A new AT-RT or a boost or Mace on AT-RT or something!


Mace on AT-RT with dismount.

Cheers


I think the big problem here is two fold. one Mace LOTLS. two Speed 8 on ATRTs. Combined probably too powerful.


I agree on Mace At/Rt but he keeps his butt on the AT/RT or cost to the point that a cheaper Mace can be created.

Possible suggestion: A Mace, Padawan or Jedi Knight with an affinity for Sora Bulq.


Best of both worlds: Cost 64 Mace on AT-RT. Take 63 point Clone Strike Mace or take a 40 point new Mace that is yet to be created... presumably worse than Clone Strike Mace but that serves a totally different role so you can choose which to take depending on the situation.



Ok then why not mace on AT-RT with vehicle SA? same as durge, (love that piece)

cheers


Same thing vehicle = dismount
AndyHatton
Posted: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 11:18:35 AM
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leshippy wrote:


Same thing vehicle = dismount


Not suggesting the Mace on AT-RT would need to be Dismountable either way, but Just to play Devil's Advocate.

Vehicle: Mace on AT-RT would end his turn and then change into a new Mace. All the damage is still there and speed 8 xs 2 is 16 on a large base so he can't be towed. That isn't nearly as good as just towing Mace Legacy with R2 12 squares and then having him GMA up 6 more and actually get his Triple off. So he moved 16 and didn't attack, instead of moving 18+ and getting his Triple Attack. Also You can also cost the Vehicled Mace in such a way as to not make Legacy a legal choice.

Dismount: Dismout names a specific piece to dismount into, so something like the Beast Rider could be done and a future piece, Mace Windu, Hero of Ryloth could be named or one of the "lesser" Maces that are still good just not played so often. Master Windu comes to mind. Granted, on such a large piece I don't think Dismount is a particularly great option and while I like Vehicle I do understand the concerns. Again just my thoughts.
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FlyingArrow wrote:
Force Attacks (Force X, usable only on this character's turn: this character can make exactly X attacks instead of moving)

(Glossary to clarify this does not stack with Double/Triple/Extra/Twin attacks.)


Or you could just go with a more generic Empowered Assualt (Force1, usable only on this character's turn: make 1 Extra Attack this turn)

This would work for non-lightsaber wielders to have a LS Assualt like ability and stacks with double/triple and a character with MOTF can gain multiple attacks, overall it's much more flexible.
leshippy
Posted: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 12:23:11 PM
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AndyHatton wrote:
leshippy wrote:


Same thing vehicle = dismount


Not suggesting the Mace on AT-RT would need to be Dismountable either way, but Just to play Devil's Advocate.

Vehicle: Mace on AT-RT would end his turn and then change into a new Mace. All the damage is still there and speed 8 xs 2 is 16 on a large base so he can't be towed. That isn't nearly as good as just towing Mace Legacy with R2 12 squares and then having him GMA up 6 more and actually get his Triple off. So he moved 16 and didn't attack, instead of moving 18+ and getting his Triple Attack. Also You can also cost the Vehicled Mace in such a way as to not make Legacy a legal choice.

Dismount: Dismout names a specific piece to dismount into, so something like the Beast Rider could be done and a future piece, Mace Windu, Hero of Ryloth could be named or one of the "lesser" Maces that are still good just not played so often. Master Windu comes to mind. Granted, on such a large piece I don't think Dismount is a particularly great option and while I like Vehicle I do understand the concerns. Again just my thoughts.


Ah I see what you are getting at now.
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Alot of talk about Mace riding on a AT-RT, I'm assuming this happened in the Clone Wars TV series (the new one not the better one lol) I remember watching an episode with him commanding Clones on AT-RT's, but I don't remember him riding one. I remember him riding an enemy Droid StarFighter though now that would be cool! Stafe, Flight and then Vehicle. (Dismount isn't a good idea for high costing pieces.)
Did he really ride on an AT-RT? If so what episode or does anyone know were it would be on Youtube? I kinda would like to see that.BigGrin
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Deathwielded wrote:
Alot of talk about Mace riding on a AT-RT, I'm assuming this happened in the Clone Wars TV series (the new one not the better one lol) I remember watching an episode with him commanding Clones on AT-RT's, but I don't remember him riding one. I remember him riding an enemy Droid StarFighter though now that would be cool! Stafe, Flight and then Vehicle. (Dismount isn't a good idea for high costing pieces.)
Did he really ride on an AT-RT? If so what episode or does anyone know were it would be on Youtube? I kinda would like to see that.BigGrin

It happened in the Ryloth trilogy with ARF troopers and Wat Tambor and whatnot. Google that and it could come up.
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I think we could use some good Opportunist pieces for the Sith. They have good act control with the Recruits who would work nicely with the Muun Tactics Broker they just need some good opportunists
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