I didn't realize Jawajuice was open to all. Are you saying that non-designers are allowed to comment in the design threads? If so, that would be awesome!

(Oh, and for the record, I've always been a big fan of having publicly visible design threads. It's something else I like about the TN sets.)

I think the Custom sets and the V-sets can and should coincide. I do appreciate playing both the V-sets and the Custom sets made by a good group of players. I've been playing this game for a long time, and its refreshing to try new styles of play that bring back older pieces into use. For example, one of my favorite pieces is the Nute Gunray from Legends. It makes the old Destroyer droids competitive, and the piece is flavorful and well made. The peices in the V-sets are well made to, and it took lots of hard work to make them. The V-sets are the official release and continuation of the game, but that doesn't mean that these custom sets are any less important or impressive. These custom sets took a lot of effort and playtesting also. I view it as a different format of the game (kinda like the epics game format which has certain rules restrictions and its own cards), and I enjoy playing star wars mini's with both the Custom sets and the V-sets.

Now I'm going to go on a bit of a rant, but please hear me out. I would like to not see a divide in the community over this. I read a comment earlier that seemed quite hostile to the V-set designers, and that was completely uncalled for. Some people have issues with some V-set pieces, but wasn't that the case with the WotC pieces to? It doesn't mean the whole game was bad, it just meant that sometimes people had to make a decision to ban certain pieces from being played. GOWK was a good example of this back when he first came out. He was so impossible to kill that he had SSM errata'd. People had problems with Daala, and maybe that is what drove some people away from the game. But look at the fine example that the NZ players have set. They just decided as a group to not allow her in tournaments til a future time. And that is what is good about this game community! No one is saying that you all need to play the same way or stick to using all the pieces. The V-set designers are absolutely fine with the NZ players not wanting to play Daala, cause they understand that she is a major NPE and isn't fitting the kind of play style a lot of the players over there like to play. I personally, just took all the talk about how OP Daala was as a challenge for myself to find creative ways to counter her in a competitive way that can also deal with other good squads, and I had fun designing squads to do just that.

I appreciate what both design teams of the V-sets and the Custom sets are doing. They are both fun and its a good thing for the game. I encourage people to play both, instead of picking a side and being dogmatic about it. I think the inclusion of the V-set All-stars is a indication of the respect that the Tennessee group has for the V-sets. Lets not ruin this games future by making a huge rift right now in the community. We all love this game. I am very proud to be a part of this community of players. We have a lot of good people who play this game! And this game can be enjoyed in all formats. Can't wait for this tournament to get started! Major props to Bronson for getting this thing organized.

Good on ya Jim. I don't think anybody in this community would be bagging any form of SWM. As Deaths_Baine put it, this is a dying game so why would someone alienate any part of its community? This is why we need everyone to promote it in which ever way they can! I see it like the great Coke vs Pepsi war. Some like Coke. Some like Pepsi. Heck some like both. For me I like both formats as it enables me to play SWM as often as I can (even though the NZ calender is SUPER full). NZ (Save 11) will ALWAYS back the V-sets as that's what we like as a group and that's what works for us but that doesn't mean that some of us wont dip our toes in the TN format. I encourage all of you to have a look at the TN stuff. You may not like it, and that's perfectly fine, but you just might find something you like.

Let's keep this civil

Viva La SWM Community!

Perhaps someone who is involved and knows the TN format should call into the SHNN. My impression as a regular caller is that the guys are positive to players in the TN format but they don't have much to say about it themselves. Personally, I call the SHNN because I want to talk about SWM as hosted by Gamers. The guys talk about; sports, personal life, x-wing, imperial assault, the TN format...stuff I don't care to talk about. Jim continually brings up the TN format and supports it, but I have as much to say about it as I do x-wing. nada

Dr Daman put it pretty well, I think. And I consider him to be more of an authority, since he's actually enjoyed both 'Coke and Pepsi'. What I don't like about the format is that there are pieces excluded from it. However, that is EXACTLY what draws others to it...some of those pieces are buzz kills for them. Bronson has created something to keep those people engaged and I applaud him for it. If that's what you want to play, great. And I mean that...you're playing. I'll report on it. If you don't like that format, well, you have the regionals and GenCon. I'll report on that too. I'd like to repeat my request, however...I'd like to know what I said that elicited this remark. I'm not above misspeaking or not getting something right. If that's the case, I'd like to know about it and correct it. However, I think I've been very open minded about this whole format since Bronson explained to me personally his goals for it. I believe him and I believe in this format. I don't believe in haters and I don't like being called a 'cynic'.

I have offered to have Bronson on the show. He was unable to before, but I told him that it is an open invitation. It's ok if he doesn't...he doesn't have to 'explain' anything to make this a valid and fun format.

I listen to the Podcast every week. I am probably the number 1 fan of the show. I especially enjoyed listening to the show when I unveiled my Zam Caught The Klat sqaud. Jim often times referred to me as the greatest player on the planet. A title that I have earned, but a title that is a heavy burden to carry. It's lonely at the top. Anyways, it was a good time, listening to everyone stroke my ego. If I get a shout out again Jim, just know that I will be listening and I will salute you and the fine gentlemen who are conversing with you, with a drink. Speaking of drinks I have a fun drinking game that I play each week, where I do a shot every time the guys on the show talk about something other than Star Wars. Needless to say I get hammered. I invite all of you reading this (Echo looking at you) to join me.

Jim you are a good guy in my book, and I would love to knock a few back. Watch my Giants stomp your Cowboys in a football game, and then let you buy me a steak. Maybe someday right? I think you generally want to be fair and balanced and it's a good goal to be sure, but much like Fox News you and your cohorts come off a little O'Reilly'ish. Which is not cool. Don't be a buzzkill. Clearly a lot of people enjoy this version of the game, so a little more coverage and effort could go a long way. Anyway that is just one humble fan's opinion of the show.

Jim Forever!

I hate to admit this, but, whenever I see a scruffyhan post, it HAS to be read. Kind of like a Deon Sanders type effect.

getting so excited can't wait to see how is paired in my league. spry i am coming for you.

Awesome! Got ya added!

Brendon it's good to have you involved again!