I'm not saying that no one will pick up the title after we do a virtual set.
We have to be able to carry on what we were left with.
We go out of Wizards of the coast with no home, but a big enough community to sustain the game. there is no question in my mind that we need virtual sets. BUT....I don't want it to be "21 Virtual sets later".
It is fairly obvious that there is no agreement on on how 'Ethical" we can be with each at this point.
This pisses me off more then anything.
All any of us want is the game to survive its "Ice Age", and survive it fast.
I am going to Strive in promoting this game, as it is at this moment, and in that very same moment, I am done with DCI as well. That is not to say that I don't want to play with anyone I have had the honor of playing with, but I will no longer affiliate myself with anything in the Pocket of Wizards of the Coast.
My Concern, and the Concern of others is, Where do we go from here........?
Its obvious that this is not going to be an easy road for all of us, but, I'm going to bust my Butt in getting the word out for the ones who want to play with an actual NEW piece of plastic!
And thats still on Topic.

Time for a reality check. Based on WOTC's comments, they will be keeping their mechanics. I would be very, very shocked if they sell it to anyone else. And honestly, the decision has been made already between the companies if it is going to happen. Which is one reason why the tournament stuff is the priority, as there is a bit of a wait and see approach, especially given the message at Star Wars.com.

Without new stuff, this game is going to die. These games are never "complete", and even those that work really close to that model, still targets an audience that loves new stuff. If you are fine playing with what we will have after MOTF for the next 8 years, good for you. But you will be very lonely.

Decry 20 V-sets all you want, but it has kept SWCCG alive for 8 years after going out of print. Can you compare it's following to say. How many people still play Rage? Or Doomtown?

It did not kill any chance of a new game, because NO ONE WAS BUYING?

SW Minis and SW RPG Demographic compared to SWCCG? (within 8 years for CCG too)

really triad?



That's exactly what I gathered from this...

And Borg, how can you compare this with games that had no market?
I haven't seen any GOOD arguments supporting Vsets yet...

This is really a bad decision as a whole...

"And another leaf falls from the tree......."

Thats still not proof that it won't happen...I'm still waiting for you to show me how you know it won't get picked up...but go ahead and keep complaining because its stuff like that, that is pushing people away more than the game being dropped

http://www.the-holocron.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=104&Itemid=81

great custom set. I think its really neat that the original creators of this set are not only still active in the game, but are on board with Dean's initiative to continue the game.

So, BS1 (ironic) and Dahatchetjeedi, would you like to reactivate your old accounts and just go by your regular, trolling, trouble causing names, or just pretend to be new persons here with a strikingly similar tardness to you?

This my friend is baiting...
And this is the only account I have ever had on this site thank you...
lmao

Talk about a smurf...
2 posts?
Can we make this any more obvious?!?


And if he and I were the same person, dont you think that I would be pro-Vsets like he is???

...what? EVERY response I saw concerning the progress being made by Dean et al. was overwhelmingly positive until you and dahatchet got involved.

As for v-sets ruining games, you're talking about games that already got canceled. The SWCCG COULD NOT continue, with or without v-sets. Wizards had the opportunity to buy the mechanics, and they didn't. Then v-sets came out. It was either v-sets or nothing. You can't say that v-sets killed the game; the game was already dead in the sense that no company was making it and no one was going to continue making it.

There is no evidence that v-sets hurt any game (you personally not liking the direction of a game is not evidence). If dahatchetjeedi has real proof that v-sets prevented any game from being picked up, I would be very interested. As in, I'd like to see documents or communication of some kind from any company saying "We would be interested in picking up the SWCCG, but since the players are making v-sets, we aren't going to do it". Until hard evidence in that vein is presented, I see absolutely no reason whatsoever why these claims should be taken as anything more than a single individual's opinion.

On the other hand, there is concrete evidence that the SWCCG is very much alive and kicking. A number of people still play it, and in fact they had a tournament last year which had to be cut off at 64 people. There were literally more people wanting and ready to play the game than they could accept. That's very strong, hard evidence that people still play the game and that it's going strong.