Well, not looking to get into a fight, but at a glance at this thread (and ice cream aside) isn't that like 95% of who does what around here anyway? Seems like thats all the chiefs and hardly any indians ...

Awesome, keep at it and you will improve probably more quickly than you think. I know the first couple that I did were kind of rough but don't get discouraged. The quality of miniatures you use for your customs can make a huge difference as well. I know some of the heroclix sculpts in particular arent very detailed and dont usually end up looking great, but they are still good enough for most stuff and also tend to be more made affordable for cutting up for customs than some of the better quality D&D or others.

oh... I was given a private reason that it would hurt some people's feelings.... which is not really a reason but hey... I like to be honest so there's that reason I guess, if you consider it one.

I wonder about the reaction if the "leadership committee" signs off on something that some people dislike. What if it existed and signed off on Yaddle? Would we need a leadership leadership committee? Who watches those who watch the watchmen?

Thank you for the question


I think the chances are very very good because the people on the committee would be very very good. I can see 8 people that would do a fantastic job on the committee. I have publicly declared my personal top 5.


Yes I am sure because they will be checking and balancing each other.


That is the way I envision it. I would say that some of the leaders can point us to some of the people that they have worked with and know are very good at certain things over other things and things like that. But I think we all know each other well enough to leave it up to the community.

the balance committee is doing a really good job. The design team is still making a ton of allowances.
They have gotten better.

1) A leadership committee would do a better job because they will outline direction. They will provide philosophy and collectively will get a feel for what the community wants. Having people on the committee from different play groups, play styles, and backgrounds will tremendously the help the community as a whole. For instance, one group might really like vehicles and another group does not. So the representative that knows that some people like vehicles can buffer the counters/errata or at least bring it up and the leadership community can then take the issue back to the community.
The thing is that with leadership that we all agree on, if they do make a mistake or a wrong choice, it was my leaders who made that mistake. I am responsible. Will they make mistakes, I 100% expect them to. I also expect them to be public about them, and discuss the solution with us.

The design team listens in some ways. BUT the design team also does what they want in a lot of ways too.

Which is simply not good.

Also, the balance committee is limited in what they can do. They have boundaries. We are always redefining our balance committee. Eventually, the balance committee will just become very similar to the leadership committee, they will serve the same function. They are already having to expand their reach. Once a design comes out it is out. and changing it is very very difficult. That is why we need preventive measures in the design process.

The leadership committee does not only have to deal with pt, balance, and design. They can help with events, fund raising, community fun, etc.

ADDITION:
The leadership committee can stop one person from getting things done their way. It takes away the individual in almost every regard. We become a community with leaders instead of a community of individuals is the largest point. We will find safety behind the leaders.

My write up a few days ago about my first thoughts on the leadership committee


This is what I propose. Or at least the first outline.

5 people. My personal choices would be:

Deri, atmsalad, Deaths_Baine, TheHutts, and DarthJim.

one person on leadership committee should be on the design team at all times and is able to take issues to the leadership council.

one member should be on the balance committee

One member on the PT committee.

One member should be head of a events coordination / public relations committee. i think Caedus and Timmerb would be great at this.
They do things that try and get the community involved. Ensures events are happening. Gets interest in events.
Things like squad building challenges and the old rolling mini of the day, CCC, bothan trasmission, etc. all those things that try to get community to have stuff to do.
They also get community input and figure out what kind of interest there is for events and prize support and things. and help find people to host events, especially online events. Would love to play the NZ guys again.
i would love things like Community designed piece every year. (I know it was a fiasco last time, but with a committee member at its head, that person can take ideas and form a design).

I do think that the SWM should come up with a budget. Do some kind of fundraising or something so we can budget prize support, maybe even pay someone to make new maps, advertising, etc.

The one guy left is left open and the committee rotate who is open so they do not get burned out. Maybe every year/2 sets

That member is there to lend support to others in their special operations and to help in all the discussions the leadership committee has and the hard decisions that have to be made.



Things I think the leadership committee as a whole should do:


Give designers a few pieces that need to be designed with a general blue print (Sith Vader, it needs to have throw 1 with twin or throw 2 and cost around high 30s to low 40s and needs to push it competitively in sith).

Give suggestions on what soft counters the game needs to be designed or what might help a faction be competitive.

Discuss and define design philosophy (research, ease of use, limit new abilities, keep faction uniqueness, accuracy/integrity of design, faction competitiveness, etc).

Help pt committee try to break designs.

Transparency in what they have been asked to do and the processes by which they are doing things (Balance committee already does this)

I think that the leadership committee should be in charge of who are designers. I think designers are already picked until a certain point (I don't know which set). Those picked should stay picked but at the end of the last set. The leadership committee decides who is picked. I think they should pick 5 designers that rotate 1 person per set so the same people are designing together for a while.
I think the overall goal should be to design 3 times and than possibly rotate out.
1, 2, 3 *all have a leadership committee member as well*
2, 3, 4
3, 4, 5,
4, 5, 1
5, 1, 2
1, 2, 3 (might be new people or keep the same)

I think that if there are going to be new designers they get plugged into sets as "apprentice designers" and have limited responsibilities. This gives the leadership committee time to process their ability and the designers time to see the system, etc.

Design is our most important job in this game. It needs to be kept safe and protected. 36 pieces per set. 4 members + possible apprentice. I think apprentice can get 4, Leadership committee member can get 4, and that leaves 7 per design team member. Maybe the design team gives each designer an "assignment piece" and that leaves 6 open slots per designer. That would be my personal break down.

Balance team should do their thing. PT Committee should do their thing. Design team other than above should do their thing. Public Relations Committee should do their thing.

This is how I see the future of SWM. Controlled, organized, thought out, involved, intentional, transparent, and unified.

Balance team has done amazing, PT committee has done amazing.

I think you use the people who have been doing this for a long time and give them direction as part of a bigger whole

Only if this is to assist those already handling money in various ways. I trust the people currently tasked with this implicitly, and it is better now than it ever was. This is one of those areas that maybe had issues in the past, but now it is fine. Leave it alone, unless you want someone to do OTHER fundraising or ADDITIONAL prize support.

Darth_Jim.

I firmly believe in our community. I would let those that are already doing the job do them. Like I said, we have amazing people. The difference is that with a leadership committee member going to those already handling budget they can meet, discuss, get community interest, etc. and than do other things together. For instance, I do not know who does what with our budget. A leadership committee would put all that stuff out in the open and get public support and broaden the usage of those people already doing a good job.

The balance committee would still do its job. I think a member of the leadership committee should sit with the balance committee and if the need arise and their is a split, that member goes with the problem to the leadership committee.

The design team is a different issue imo. but i outlined it above. (at least my view).

It is not just that people are not already doing things. They are.

It is that they are not connected and their is a larger disconnect with the community as a whole.

AND most important it will break secret agendas and power grab and stop unfortunate things coming into our game that hurt the game and than it takes 3 sets to find the right balance.

please see new thread

People who aren't doing the design work probably shouldn't dictate what can and can't be designed; I suspect that would stifle creativity and just make designs worse in general. The design team itself should adopt practices that accomplish your goals (although theoretically it's mostly stuff that should be caught in playtesting). Maybe there should be a mandated design review process that occurs a couple times during a set's lifecycle by the designers on the sets both before and after the one being worked on. That's just off the top of my head.

As for the non-design stuff you've mentioned (budgeting, PR, etc) that could maybe use a committee if it's more well defined. I know I've pushed for a "PR lead" more than once in the past. The role was even taken up before, but the guy who accepted it then didn't do anything with it. *shrug*