Well before the mod runs me out of the community, I'd just like to say that its been fun. Obviously there's no room for anyone to have a great day and have a little fun on line here without everything you say getting deleted and the mod PM'ing you that someone wants him to kill himself so my threads get deleted. Didnt' call you hitler. Sorry you can't have fun AND do your job.

Well, I guess I'll see you on Vassal. Have a good one!

This last post makes me wonder what a mod's PM's look like.

I hate it when people talk in the theater!

I Firefly..

That quote is from my favorite firefly episode ever, because I love Saphron.

On topic, I don't believe in venting. I think it doesn't help to shout or rage or whatever about a subject, but I am very happy people are talking about what created/keeps the divide between the (generally two) websites populations. It is good to know where other people are coming from, and we all can call ourselves closer as long as we listen and identify (not agree, identify) with the other posters.

As an anecdote, one reason that I have a grudge (and it exists still, unfortunately) against the "V-set crowd" is one time on the Wizards site when I had been carefully and nicely argueing with Boris I believe when he said something. The next post that I put down was that "I would feel elitist if I did/said that"

I think about 10 people figuratively jumped down my throat.

Not for me accusing them of being elitist, not for me insinuating that they were elitist, but for me giving my opinion about how I would feel (insinuating that they should see if they should feel elitist)

I grant that the reason they have a grudge against me is because I took pictures (copyrighted by wizards) from their website and put them up on Wizards. I quoted where they were from and they politely asked for them not to be moved, but I will never feel bad about that.
(Shoot, I don't want to start an argument about this. Just stating the facts about what I did and how they perceived it. If you want to comment about it [your personal feelings about what I did], you may, of course. Just realize that bashing me will probably get this thread locked)

This is what's crap about this whole situation. No one is holding a grudge against you. Hell, I didn't even remember that event until you just brought it up. Yet you are still holding on to the one time we (I'm presuming me - but truthfully, don't remember) said we didn't agree with something you did.

Add to that, everyone else who falls into the same camp, and all the sudden you start to see a picture of 30 or so people holding grudges because of the one time someone disagreed with them, and their supposed opponents who haven't given it a second thought.

This is why, when you have an issue, you need to start with PMs to the other people to understand their position, before making it an issue in public. I apologize if that seems "elitist" or whatever you want to call it, but truthfully, I'm mature enough to understand that I can disagree with something someone does, without taking that to mean they are a bad person, or even that this reflects on their person at all. I've never thought you a bad guy at all.

The "bad guys" if we have to name them for some reason, are basically associated with one group of people (or so it seems) - basically MDB and Darth Jak and their many accounts. I'm certain these two are still around, using not only their banned accounts in the squad critique area, but also the smurf accounts that haven't been caught yet. Even then, I'm sure they are probably decent enough people outside of this experience, and otherwise could have been friends, they just chose to go down a path that isn't good for the community and needed to be called out for it. Any issues should begin and end there, with the improper behavior.

I usually smell like a monster in the morning, then smell like a MAN after a shower. However, some women prefer the smell of a monster sometimes...it makes them know you are a real MAN, or a MANSTER.

Uh, as for the state of the community...it's probably best for most of us to smell like a MAN rather than a monster initially, otherwise you'll just end up attracting monsters of the opposite sex. Also, let's not stress out too much about SWM. Stress causes you to sweat, sweat makes you smell like a monster. Then you have to go buy expensive body washes, get a haircut, shave, etc. Which leaves little money towards SWM. Not to mention little money to spend on your monster girlfriend.