No sweat.

Its whatever really at this point.
What if I was MDB, would it matter?
Would you all still want him banned?
Lets say I was him, would he/I ever Agree with 'certain' people taking control of our toasted game? I think not.
If you knew MDB/Sean, you would know that he would never go for any of this.
He doesn't care. He said that this would happen, and it happened.
as far as I'm concerned, hes the smartest one out of all of us by leaving this alone.
from here on in, we are going to have 3 different sects playing this game, and theres no way in Hades that this game will ever get picked up again. Because you can make Da*m sure that you guys won't be the only ones promoting ideas to Hasbro and other table top producers. with 0 solidarity with any of us together, it will be over.

The idea that V-sets will dissuade a company from picking up the game is ludicrous. Killing the game? The V-sets will, barring a miracle, be the only thing that keep this game alive. Looking at ACTUAL EVIDENCE, Star Wars gaming will move forward. In the one in a million chance that the game will get continued with the same ruleset I'm sure the gamers community wouldn't press the issue of making new cards when a company has taken it over. If the game comes back with a new ruleset, I would hope the gamers community pushes forward and develops THIS game further. If a company with extensive resources can't provide a superior product over what us group of volunteers would advance, then I don't care if it doesn't work. To blame the failure of Wizards TCG on the SWCCGPC is just morbidly stupid. If Wizards could have provided a product with a fraction of the quality and effort that SWCCG had it would likely have had some success. Stop blaming V-cards for the fact that Wizards' SWTCG sucked.
As for no one picking up Decipher's game and continuing it with the same ruleset, Wizards already was planning their game before any of us players knew that Decipher was done. Use a search engine and a calendar, that should be EVIDENCE enough to find out how things went down. By the time that MotF is released, you can bet that the plans will already be formulated as to who will producing Star Wars gaming and how it will be produced, and V-sets will have nothing to do with it. It's such a preposterously ignorant argument that I can't beleive it's much more than jsut trying to get a rise out of people.

There will be a new Star Wars game, quite different from this one. It will prosper if it deserves to, V-sets or not.

The only one who went on the attack is you.
Now your giving advice to not do that? Are You serious?

Great Resume.
I formerly Kick Boxed Myself.
But that has absolutely nothing to do with the price of eggs in China.
I didn't attack the community.
Dean attacked me ranting about Me trying to get people to Boycott. That was way off from the truth. SithBorg came and edited all of his accusations of me being MDB aswell. I defended myself and wondered why I was being warned when I was trying to get all parties involved. But apparently, you Boys already have that taken care of. You expect us to stand by and wait on you. Forget it. Worry about Gencon all you want, I'll be there no matter what. I'll worry about this game before hand. You guys have had minis banned and then allowed them back with Erratas to abilities. I'm sick of it, and am not supporting you with any of this. This freak show is over.

I can appreciate your sudden positivity, but what of the members wre are losing and are going to lose? We essentially start all over again, and face the same problems we had with Wizos. There is absolutely no way that most of us will be happy playing with someone elses idea of General Jar Jar. I would also like to point out that the person who modded that Jar Jar will probably play the crap out of him, because he made him. It isn't right on alot of levels. The designers of Minis weren't one with us, they were the guys who made what we payed for. Now, we will have people that we play with make Cards for the game, while they play the game. I'm sorry, but I can't sign on with this.

Good lord. How did this thread get so random?

Blizzard Scout 1, you are making arguments that have been made against various vcards in the CCG for ten years now. Sometimes that actually happened. Someone loved Massassi Base Operations so he made like six helper cards until it was great. You know what happened? He got kicked out of design, his cards got errata'ed, and the game moved on. At one point things got so confusing and frankly so broken that they had a "redux" where almost every vcard got rewritten. Hundreds of them. Watch Your Step (v) went from being the best deck in the history of the game to unplayable bad overnight. Scum went from being insanely good to respectable but beatable. People were upset, and some did quit. But even more people saw that the broken stuff was being fixed and came back on board.

It wasn't perfect, and it won't be perfect. But if enjoy playing the game, why not at least wait and see what comes out of the design groups. It might very well make you... enjoy it more!

Do you have a better idea? There will be ways to ensure that the wider community has input into the design of some pieces from the V-sets. I will break my back to ensure this. It's true that not everyone's input will be used. But there are ways to make sure it is heard. There will be people submitting stupid ideas (get over yourself and admit it), and those will be ignored, like they should. If you want to get involved in making the game positive, spend some time thinking up good ideas! People who know the game much better than you or I will be making many of the decisions. But, you and I will have the chance to be consulted at some. It's up to you to make the decision to have something worthwhile to contribute. The main designers at Gamers want to see the game prosper too; does it make sense for them to produce new cards that the community will hate? They will try to make figures that are fun for the community, while maintaining a competive environment.

Fundamentally, this is a local issue. If everyone in your local community knows that, every week, there are going to be people with maps and dice and figures at the store, ready to play, the game will live on. We play this game because it is fun, but also because it is a good reason to hang out with people we like. Keeping people in the game is not done by having Dean post passionate speeches on the Internet; it's done by talking with your friends and encouraging them to keep playing, by showing up at the LGS, and by pitching the game to people who are interested.

I have a ton of ideas, and I know there are good guys doing this.
I never got into CCG, thats why I probably am all for V cards, because I know that at this point, its the only choice we have until the "Mother ship" comes and makes actual new minis. Thats why I'm not making huge arguements about CCG, because I don't have enough first hand experience with the game. But I have the experiaence in the world that I need when it comes to this game.
Like I said, I have ideas, and alot of them are for commons and uncommons, with very few Unique characters. And thats in fear of me creating a ridiculously powerful mini that people will hate and come after me for it. I don;t want that kind of heat.
But, I'm willing to hear this out.
Remove MDB from the Ban list on Gamers, and I can give you my word that you will get nothing but positive feedback from him and myself, I can't get on gamers, (We are Roommates)because i found out today that he was banned.