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Sithborg wrote:Tarpals' CE is one I would gladly see never used again. His CE comes up in some very surprising ways, in terms of balance. It has a way of sneaking up and creating balance issues. It was definately an issue with some of the Epics, and C'boath had to be tweaked pretty hard because of Tarpals interactions. True. I like the idea, but it is something that would need to be handled with a narrow focus, rather than always on and potentially affecting a large number of characters. Personally, I think Flim's CE is pretty cool, allowing a non-Unique to use a replaces attacks ability out of turn. I could see that being useful in other permutations.
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swinefeld wrote:Sithborg wrote:Tarpals' CE is one I would gladly see never used again. His CE comes up in some very surprising ways, in terms of balance. It has a way of sneaking up and creating balance issues. It was definately an issue with some of the Epics, and C'boath had to be tweaked pretty hard because of Tarpals interactions. True. I like the idea, but it is something that would need to be handled with a narrow focus, rather than always on and potentially affecting a large number of characters. Personally, I think Flim's CE is pretty cool, allowing a non-Unique to use a replaces attacks ability out of turn. I could see that being useful in other permutations. What if it was very specific? I always thought a lot of the problem came from Force Users using it but what if just non-unique Commandos or Pilots could use it or something?
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kezzamachine wrote:A 27-point Viqi Sheesh who is a Yuuzhan Vong character that has Fringe Reinforcements 20 so YOU DON'T HAVE TO RUN THE SACRILEGE OF HAVING LOBOT IN YOUR VONG SQUAD!!! plus she could have Vong Collaborator and may Synergy/Camaraderie/CE for Peace Brigade.
+1 to this. (Too soon?) +1
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kezzamachine wrote:kezzamachine wrote:A 27-point Viqi Sheesh who is a Yuuzhan Vong character that has Fringe Reinforcements 20 so YOU DON'T HAVE TO RUN THE SACRILEGE OF HAVING LOBOT IN YOUR VONG SQUAD!!! plus she could have Vong Collaborator and may Synergy/Camaraderie/CE for Peace Brigade.
+1 to this. (Too soon?) +1 +1
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swinefeld wrote:I'm sure something along these lines has been suggested in the past:
Squad Leader [Counts as having the same name as allied characters for purposes of special abilties whose name contains Squad. Can use abilities whose names contain Squad from allies within 6 squares]
Put it on a commander that grants Squad abilities, or grant it to an existing commanders via CE/Camaraderie. Adding to this, more ideas to make Squad abilities easier to use: Squad Unity - increase range between allies to qualify for Squad effects Squad Discipline - prevent squad CEs from being suppressed for each receiver that has LOS to the commander(s) Squad Resolve - allow character with this to count as its own ally for meeting Squad requirements
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Something that suppresses adjacent ABM force power, (thinking Distraction, but against a force Commander Effect, not all force powers).
On a Unique cheap piece (like a Salacious Crumb, Figrin D'an, etc).
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Thanks everyone.
The designers have looked through this list and some of these pieces will be made for vset 7 for sure.
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kezzamachine wrote:A 27-point Viqi Sheesh who is a Yuuzhan Vong character that has Fringe Reinforcements 20 so YOU DON'T HAVE TO RUN THE SACRILEGE OF HAVING LOBOT IN YOUR VONG SQUAD!!! plus she could have Vong Collaborator and may Synergy/Camaraderie/CE for Peace Brigade.
+1 to this. (Too soon?) Genius. Incredible flavor for Vong. Lose override at the same time but gain something else (ability wise - disruptive?). Either way I think its perfect.
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More Pirate CEs!!
Corellian Pirate Captain 19, hp 70, def 16, atk 8, dmg 20 SA Blast Cannon (+10 Damage against targets within 6 squares) Satchel Charge (Replaces attacks: Designate 1 adjacent door as open; it remains open for the rest of the skirmish and cannot be closed) Splash 10 (If this character's attack hits, all characters adjacent to the target take 10 damage; save 11. If the attack misses, the target and all adjacent characters take 10 damage; save 11.) Evade
CE Allied Pirates gain allied pirates gain blast cannon and satchel charge
Viqi Shesh 35, hp 50, def 15, ATk 8, dmg 10 SA Unique Diplomat Peace Brigade Yuuzhan Vong collaborator Relay Orders Tizo worm(this character counts as yuuzhan vong for the purpose of commander effects) Fringe Reinforcements 20 CE Peace brigade allies gain Tizo worm
The one mini faction not yet represented I would love to see:
Imperial Missionary (RM imperial diplomat or human Bodyguard) 15, hp 30, def 12, ATk 0, dmg 0 SA Diplomat Heal 20 Medical Supplies Recon
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Also since the next is the epic one (I think?) then what I would love to see:
OR Jedi Exile, Hero of Onderon Similar to Revan epic but for Kotor 2 characters and turns into a new (please) exile force ghost
Sith Emperor from TOR Epic force powers
Mandolorian Jango Fett, Mandalore Evasive Maneuvers (when this character is hit by a melee attack, make a save of 11, on a success immediately move this character one square.)
Republic Anakin Skywalker, Hero of the Republic Highly mobile and aggressive
Separatist General Grievous, Hero of the Confederacy Evade, parry, spinning blade attack, blaster, damage reduction 10
Imperial Emperor Palpatine Reborn Slowly dies every turn but eternal hatred/transfer essence
Rebel Han Solo, Pilot, Smuggler, General Greater Mobile Attack Twin Attack Greater Smuggler's luck Proctective of Rebels Uniques
New Republic Kyle Katarn, Hero of Russan Advanced Shields 2 Missiles Mines 20
Vong Onimi, Master Manipulater Very tech piece that boosts Shimraa up, Example: Camaraderie (Allied character named shimmra gains intuition and intimidate) CE Allied Character named Shimraa gains counterattack
Fringe Abeloth 200 points, need I say more? Make her a one "woman" army
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I would love to see a return to a 40 piece set, and a limit on the new wacky SA & CE
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I agree with Jak. I think V-sets should be at the 40 card limit.
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Galactic Funk wrote:kezzamachine wrote:A 27-point Viqi Sheesh who is a Yuuzhan Vong character that has Fringe Reinforcements 20 so YOU DON'T HAVE TO RUN THE SACRILEGE OF HAVING LOBOT IN YOUR VONG SQUAD!!! plus she could have Vong Collaborator and may Synergy/Camaraderie/CE for Peace Brigade.
+1 to this. (Too soon?) Genius. Incredible flavor for Vong. Lose override at the same time but gain something else (ability wise - disruptive?). Either way I think its perfect. +1 to this.
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TimmerB123 wrote:Thanks everyone.
The designers have looked through this list and some of these pieces will be made for vset 7 for sure. Can you tell us which ones?
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den25 wrote:I think V-sets should be at the 40 card limit. I agree, although I am just a casual player. I don't know if 60 cards is more cost effective? But it seems 40 wold be cheaper to print, playtest, and digest I'd also like to see Booster and Mirax Terrik.
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Ya know I'd kinda like to see maybe a with or old republic Dooku (http://www.bloomilk.com/Custom/11291/master-dooku). That would be sweet.
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crazybirdman wrote:I agree, although I am just a casual player. I don't know if 60 cards is more cost effective? But it seems 40 wold be cheaper to print, playtest, and digest
I think they've said that 60 main set + 12 mini set is a good number because they can print 12 cards per sheet, so 72 is divisible by 12. Lots of Wizards sets focused on a couple of factions (eg. Clone Wars) - it's really good at the moment how each set generally has something good for every faction - it's pretty hard to spread 10 factions over 40 slots. Masters of the Force is the only 40 piece set with all 10 factions, but half of the factions only got one or two pieces.
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In terms of the logistics, 72 (60+12) is far easier to make work twice a year. There's been plenty of discussions of this (about a year back?) and it was pretty clear from the experience of those sharing that it beats 40 easy.
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I think adding a new ability called "Uneasy alliance" would be something to see, whereby units from other factions can be in the same team for the purposes of team building, but not for the purposes of commander effects.
The pieces I have in mind to specifically have them are the Legacy characters such as Shado Vao and the Imperial Knights.
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To address the few things. Looks for v-set 8 to be smaller. 54 total cards. It would look like a 45 card regular set and a 9 card subset. This has to do with printer pricing. There are 18 cards per sheet, so it makes sense from a printer stand point that if half a sheet is the subset it makes things much easier to cut and sort.
With that V-set 7 in already in progress. Set 8 designers are being lined up and they wil start working on a set list soon.
As always thank you for all the input.
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