I don't think anyone has a problem with conceding a match that is not going well.
I think the problem is conceding and than whining. His little sweep and kill didn't work so boo hoo hoo.
It's the whining, especially since a lot of people used broken tactics to try to win anyway (daala ozzel, ozzel/thrawn/boba)

But ya, it's just a sign of a terrible competitor.

He should not have said what he said. CONGRATULATIONS are in order and if you think it is a problem, you should discuss the problem not the person utilizing the "problem"

Low class

I can answer that! Seems he never plays the same squad again.

So as TO of this event and creator of this thread, please stop attacking players. I understand that people get frustrated about playing squads and getting beat by said squads and everyone has opinions about what they think is bad or NPE or overpowered, but attacking players or their legal squads for any reason is just crazy. I respect everyone's opinion, whether I think it's right or off, so please respect each other's. Thanks

ummm....I was really hoping you'd have the class and forethought to not do a write-up. Now I am forced to respond.

This was easily the least fun game I've ever played in my many years in this game. It disgusted me to my very core and made me question the entire state of the game.


those are his words... that's not classy in the least bit sir....

+1

Tim has the appearance of class.

Out of respect to you if you want me to stop saying anything I will, since it seems that is what you want and since you are the targeted person this will be my last post on the subject.

But I am not pointing out Tim's classlessness without reason.

I apologize to all - my response was overly harsh, and even unfair at times.

Let me try this again. I'll break it down what I should have said and what should have been cut.


This was referring to the fact that Jason and I are personal friends. He's not some anonymous opponent. I really thought he might not post his write-up due to seeing how his squad effected me and others during the day. This was incorrect and selfish. Regardless - this should have been a personal message to Jason and not posted here (and not to mention worded nicer)


False. I wasn't forced. I was extremely compelled (by my own self), to the point I felt I had no choice, but that wasn't true. Should have written "feel compelled to respond". I really sincerely was hoping not to have anything to respond to.


True


I should have said, "my opinion is . . ." but still unnecessary


True. My stomach has literally been queasy since.


True, and IMO an important notation of the distinction between losing then whining, and having the game you love not even resemble the game anymore.


I guess atrocity is subjective, but since I am allowed to give my opinion on subjective matters, I think this qualifies as True.


False
I should have said - it didn't even FEEL like SWM.

Even by Jason's admittance, if he doesn't hit reserves he doesn't win. In our game that was the only 2 rolls we had.

True

True but unnecessary

Everyone I talked to said it was not any fun playing against his squad, but still Unnecessary


Jason is an excellent player. That part is certainly true, you'd be a fool to say otherwise. He did get the luck on top of that. The rest was Unnecessary.


100% true and important

True, but "garbage" wasn't necessary.

As of now I really do feel that way.


False.


True


True



More editorial -

The piece that compounds the reserves problem (Pong Krell) did come out seven sets ago. I didn't like it from the beginning, and in all honesty I held my breath and hoped nobody played it. It hadn't really become an issue for 3 main reasons.
1. Reserves options weren't as deep, and since then they just keep getting better (see above)
2. Not many people played it.
3. Nobody (to my knowledge) had run it with an MTB. (at least not at a regional)

Jason deserves full credit for number 3. It was a genius move. Without it, I just bring in an MTB and laugh.


For years my stance has been consistent and outspoken about my distaste for "luck" abilities. Reserves being a chief offender. It's not even that it's necessarily overpowered, it's that it makes dramatic swings in games where it's not necessary. Yes, we roll 20 sided die, and every time we do, luck gets involved. But SWM has been spiraling into more saves, more "luck" based abilities, compounding on each other. In a game where it can be a 200pt squad vs a 380pt squad (180 being perfectly tailored counters), AFTER ONLY 2 ROUNDS OF PLAY, is just out of control in my opinion.

Yes there are different NPEs to everyone, and clearly this tops my personal list. I am concerned about it being a mass NPE in general (again - it was an NPE to everyone I talked to - I'm just the most outspoken), and that is detrimental to our game. I am concerned with it being far too powerful, and that is bad for our game. I am concerned about it as a designer, and have been for years. It finally came to head this weekend. The worst scenario I had feared for years finally came true. (Happy Birthday to me).

Ultimately I am upset that this is even possible in our game. I let my rage fly and some went in some directions it should not have. For that I am sorry.

Jason, I owe you specifically an apology, because some certainly came in your direction, and you deserved none of it.

I have loved this game with a dedicated passion for years. Say whatever you will about me - it's hard to dispute that fact. It has been very important to me for over a decade. This single experience soured the game for me more profoundly than I could have expected. It shook me to my core. This is not meant as an excuse for my original post, but more meant as additional information.

Thank you to those who have reached out to me privately in support. It's helpful to know so many people agree (although my delivery was virtually universally chided - and rightfully so). My opinion of the issue hasn't wavered. I don't regret being the outspoken one on it, especially when so many people feel the same way, but I do regret my original delivery.


Again, sorry to all.

Back to your regularly scheduled programming.

Nerf Blast Bugs, nerf tempo control, nerf reserves, nerf swap. I think what all this proves is we need to nerf Jason.

Thank YOU, sir. I wasn't just being polite. I went to you and Lou because you two were voices I'd heard complain about the lack of help melee had. You came from 2 different play groups and I thought that I could get a well rounded opinion formed as to how to build the skiff. I don't normally play melee...or jedi. I try to have a mix in my squads because it's how I like to play, but all or mostly melee squads isn't my strongpoint.

Now on to other projects. Seeing Ultrastar at the regional I've come to the conclusion that his beard is tier one and needs to be nerfed. Any ideas?

Note to self: Eat pizza with Ultrastar at GenCon.