Last weekend Lilly_Wan and I played two games on the new Remote Listening Post - Commercial Spaceport (1 game on each side). Both games used themed squads rather than very competitive ones.

The first was the Commercial Spaceport with my Cloud City Garrison (Vader CotS, Lando HoT, Lobot with 3 Ugnaughts & 3 Mice, Piett, and 8 501st Stormtroopers) vs. her pure Bounty Hunters squad (Boba Merc, IG-88 Assassin, Zuckass BH, 4-Lom, Dengar Hired Killer, R7 and Ugnaughts)

I took the right side and left Lobot & Piett in the enclosed building in the middle. My plan had been to use mobile attack to keep the Stormtroopers more or less safe and take pot shots for good damage (with opportunist, squad assault & firepower, and vader they shoot at +20 for 50 damage). Lilly_wan advanced in such a way as to make that very difficult and I ended up deciding that trading pot shots wasn't going to work (as my guys die to one mistake and hers don't) so I rushed the middle and just threw everything out in a mad rush to take los obscuring cover away from both of us. The stormtroopers dropped fast, but there were lots of them and they gunned down the bounty hunters before they were all dead.

Some highlights about the map: it felt balanced between left and right, I don't think there is much reason to worry about losing the roll off and getting stuck in a bad spot. It's gorgeous, the art style is great. The fountain in the center works well, it's partially a big barrier between left and right, but it also allows movement. We had some fun moments trying to pin down a flying intuitive Bobba who was lurking at the fountain. The corridors at the top and bottom of the map work well too, they're somewhat removed from the action in the center and I had to react to Lilly_Wan trying to sneak Dengar along the hallway to get behind me and assassinate Piett.

Bottom line is it worked great. The whole map got used, basically every part of it saw some combat. I would want to play a shooting squad vs. a melee squad on it before I made up my mind, but right now I would have no reservations about allowing it for tournament play.


The listening post worked less well. I had a swarm of Hoth Troopers (about 20 activations worth of Hoth and Elite Hoth troopers and commanders) against Lilly_wan's stealthed rebel commandos. I set up in the hanger bay on the right and that forced me to move into the adjoining 5x4 room. By the time I was in there Lilly_wan had taken control of the left hand doors which lead into the huge central room and both of us more or less just crashed into a big scrum in the middle. Dice were rolled, bodies were removed, but most of the map didn't see action and we were both basically funneled into an inevitable game of smash face in the center.

Had I deployed outside on the bottom I would have had to try to get in via a long thin corridor were I didn't like my odds. It would be too easy to get bound up in the corridor. Had I deployed outside on the top I would have had more room, but I'd still have a pretty linear path to follow.

I wouldn't mind it being on the approved tournament list, it's balanced, but I wouldn't use it much.

It isn't exactly a playtest, but from personal experience I'd support a Soresu revert. I got back into the game about 6 months ago and it was very frustrating trying to work it out. The card, the glossary, and the actual rule are all different. That's a real mess and a discouragement to new players. It's hard enough trying to get up to speed on ~1,000 cards without the rules being such a shambles. Card style Soresu is powerful, but if I was going to nerf things there would be plenty on my list before SSM. It seems odd to change the rules to nerf SSM but shrug and say "It is what it is" to Yobuck or Reikeen.

I played a game on Commercial Spaceport at the weekend. I found it to be a little too shooter friendly. I had trouble advancing my guys up to engage Captain Rex who kept darting out from the middle section. But there were also so many shooting lanes that could basically stretch the whole map. I would say, it favours the GMA shooters more, because I had trouble getting my guys in a position where they could get a good shot off at him without him running even further away. I don't recommend this be used in the restricted list.

That's partially incorrect and off-topic according to the rules posted in the first post. Mods please delete these two posts...

now I'm really confused,
what exactly did I post that was so incorrect?
the facts came from wookieeapedia.
seriously, whats up?

I played 2 games on Outlaw City this weekend. I played a Naboo Pilot Deathshot squad (specifically this one: http://yqs243-site0001.maxesp.net/Squad/110815/naboo-pilots-2-0 ).

First game I set up in the bottom right, my opponent set up in the bottom right. He was playing Bastila, Kavar, Carth, Jaq, Saul Karath, an R7, and some Mouse/Uggie fodder. I sent a few pilots around the top to get shots off, but most of the game was shooting through the center of the map after the 3 doors in the bottom half were either blown up or overriden open. He beat me fairly handily (Bastila makes my squad absolutely awful )

Second game my opponent played Panaka, Mas, Mace LotLS, AniSTAP, Qui Gon JT, R2-AD, Klatooinian Captain, and fodder. He set up in the bottom right this top, so I set up straight across in the bottom left. He moved into the center room with those same doors towards the bottom (the ones that are directly in a row), and I was able to open the two on my side and start firing through. Since I outactivated him by a good bit I still had all of my Pilots left to shoot by the time he was done and the doors were opened, and was able to kill R2, his Klatooinian Captain, and AniSTAP all in round 1. He was able to get Mace and Quigon in there, but they took so much damage from killing my guys they didn't last long.


If the center door of the set of 3 at the bottom of the map were a wall instead of a door, I think this map would be great. As is, it's way too open because it's just doors. A squad like Lancers or Yobuck have the completely open way across the top, or they just have to open those 3 doors and that's another way through. I have yet to actually play Yobuck/Lancer on the map, but they make me hesitate on this map. Overall it's really strong and I've enjoyed playing on it the few times I have (these two, Mystery Map at Gencon, and I played it once when we did our sealed event for R&R), those three doors giving really easy access across the map worries me, though.

Well the only problem with this is that soresu works against shooters as it is.sorry that it worked out that way though it is never fun when people make every single save.

Mettle is a light side power so no worries there as long as I have anything to say about it. :)

As for testing, do you feel like you would have defeated Zannah earlier in the game if she couldn't do anything about melee attacks?

I built a squad with the R&R Mace, Captain Rex, Bardan Jusik (who gets Greater Mobile Attack from Rex), R2, and filler and ran it against a Sith squad that included Zannah. Mace would have wiped her out in 1-2 turns without allowing her to use SSM against him. Our games never went longer than 45 minutes.

The more Force powers and melee/GMA characters that get added, the more important the ability to prevent all attacks will be, IMO.

I just played a game on Jabba's Palace with a GOWK squad to test SSM.

GOWK
Saesee Tinn, Jedi Master
Anakin on STAP
Klatooian Captain
TBSV
Doombot
Caamasi
2 Uggies

vs

Han Scoundrel
Luke Commando
Princess Leia
Lobot
Troop Cart
Yoda of Dagobah
Fodder

Funnily enough SSM only really came into play in the last couple of rounds when GOWK faced off against Luke. I needed to use it 3 times and made each save. BUT, I only had one force point and only rerolled twice to get it. It stopped him taking lots of damage. But I don't think it was in any way broken in this case, mainly because his FPs were depleted.

I don't think changing it back will affect the Obis much. The main problems would concern Zannah.

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