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I don't get how twin attack affects them when it says on the card that they cannot attack the same enemy more then once a turn. A little incite to this would be nice cause it makes little to no sense to me. Is the text on the card just overlooked because it having twin is way to good.
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What it means is that with Strafe, you cannot go back and select an enemy twice to attack. You still get Twin off on them because that's automatic, but you cannot attack Character A, then move to Character B and attack, yet then move in a different path to then attack Character A again.
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Is this a clarification by WOTC or something someone made up because they couldn't get a straight answer, because it says on the card that it can't attack an enemy more then once. It does also state on the card that they can't move back into the same space so that takes care of that so why would it state that twice on the card? I will only believe this if WOTC states this somewhere in the rules because this still doesn't make sense.
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Yes, this is a clarification that goes all the way back to Rebel Storm. That wording means you can't attack a character twice with Strafe Attack, this restriction does not apply to Twin or if you use your normal attack.
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(As this character moves, it can attack each enemy whose space it enters; this turn, this character cannot attack any enemy twice and cannot move directly back into a space it has just left. This ability is usable only on this character's turn.)
I guess I must be thick because it still doesn't make any sense because so its tell you it can't attack an enemy twice. Then it states that it can't move back into a space that it once occupied. It doesn't say that it can't attack an enemy twice by moving into a space it once occupied. The wording on this card is just terrible because it says it can't attack twice. It doesn't make any sense because it says both thing but the explanation is it means by moving back into a square it occupied but it states that on the card. Is this making any sense why it still makes no sense to me?
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I have read a better explanation on another site and it still really a dumb rule. Twin is not strafe attack but you are still attacking them twice, so it just sounds like WOTC was making stuff up as they went along. Yea lets make a broken overpowered combo because people will abuse it.
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You can't use Strafe Attack twice on the same character. A Twin Attack, while created by a Strafe Attack, is not a Strafe Attack, it is a Twin Attack, so the rule is not broken.
As for why both points are stated in the ability, it's because while a character can't go back to the square they just occupied, they can travel in a looping pattern, which would cause them to enter squares they had previously been in.
And for brokeness and being overpowered, hardly. While Lancers are a strong combo, they can easily be countered by other squads and/or good positioning (As an example, a lancer cannot strafe someone inside a turbolift shaft as they have no way of getting back out).
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Based on the wording, I see your point, Darth Vito. Here's an unofficial errata for you:
As this character moves, it can attack each enemy whose space it enters; this turn, this character cannot use Strafe Attack to attack any enemy twice and cannot move directly back into a space it has just left. This ability is usable only on this character's turn.
While it's unofficial errata, it does express the official ruling. If you're this upset about Strafe, I can only imagine how you reacted (or will react) to non-melee Lightsaber attacks.
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remember, twin is not an extra attack,or attacking more than once, it's 1 attack vs the same opponent twice. lil' awkward but that's the rules.
the real confusion comes in when twin is combined with strafe.
I don't think WotC or any game designers mess with the rules just to PO the fans.
how's that gonna sell more stuff?
there are rules that don't make sense (Mara's LS assault), but in a game situation, rules and reality don't need to agree.
once you know the rules, just follow them, and leave logic to the Vulcans.
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Here's a quick and easy answer I forgot about. Look at Anakin on Stap's card. His definition of Strafe is different, it specifically says:
"As this character moves, it can attack each enemy whose space it enters; this character can use Twin Attack when making a Strafe Attack, but it cannot make a Strafe Attack against any enemy twice and cannot move directly back into a space it has just left. This ability is usable only on this character's turn."
This definition is used for Anakin's card and not the Lancer because Anakin starts with Twin and the Lancer does not.
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jedispyder wrote:Here's a quick and easy answer I forgot about. Look at Anakin on Stap's card. His definition of Strafe is different, it specifically says:
"As this character moves, it can attack each enemy whose space it enters; this character can use Twin Attack when making a Strafe Attack, but it cannot make a Strafe Attack against any enemy twice and cannot move directly back into a space it has just left. This ability is usable only on this character's turn."
This definition is used for Anakin's card and not the Lancer because Anakin starts with Twin and the Lancer does not. Nice job with that Explanation jedispyder. All the explanations were good actually. To get upset about a ruling that has been around for quite a while is kinda funny. The Lancer and GGDAC was an incredibly tough combo. But even then, it took a lot of skill to pull of huge decimation. Now that the game has progressed, The Lancer droid teams have a tough go of it. Just wanted to say Nice job guys with the explanation.
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