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Was just looking at Wuher and had a couple of questions I was hoping someone could answer.
1a. Does his No Blasters SA mean he can never be targeted by a figure without melee attack. It kind of sounds that way, but I'm wondering if it was meant to be more like Diplomat (i.e., it only mattered if there was line of sight to some other character).
1b. If the latter, how would the combo of Diplomat and No Blasters work? I could imagine a scenario where you couldn't target either; was this the intent or am I misreading something?
2. How would his "We Don't Serve..." work if Wuher is brought in by Reinforcements? For example, how would you decide if he was brought in first (before your opponent), thus affecting the cost of their droids. Or, second, in which case he wouldn't change the cost of an opponents droids.
Sorry if I am just missing something. Thanks, Tony
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1. Remember, the rule is "a character in cover can only be targetted if they are the closest enemy". So if he has no cover, or cover is ignored, or can target an enemy even if they aren't the closest, then he is a perfectly legal target.
2. If Wuher has cover, and an enemy has LOS to both Wuher and Diplomat, neither could be targetted.
3. Reinforcements are revealed simultaneously. So, We Don't Serve Their Kind has no effect.
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Thanks Sithborg! For some reason I didn't make the connection between cover and the No Blasters SA, but I see the intent given this.
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Sithborg wrote:
3. Reinforcements are revealed simultaneously. So, We Don't Serve Their Kind has no effect.
SO to make that really useful, he would have to be in your initial build?
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crazybirdman wrote:Sithborg wrote:
3. Reinforcements are revealed simultaneously. So, We Don't Serve Their Kind has no effect.
SO to make that really useful, he would have to be in your initial build? Correct.
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Sithborg, could you clarify your first bullet above? You speak of cover, but the SA doesn't mention cover. "Does not count as the nearest target for characters without Melee Attack." I take this to mean, if the acting character doesn't have Melee Attack Wuher says, "Na-na na-na boo-boo, I'm not the closest to you! Your princess is in another castle. This isn't the barman you're looking for." Sorry, couldn't help myself. However, how would that work with adjacent characters without Melee? As I read this I think he'd still not be the nearest target, even if adjacent. (Passing over Indiscriminate and the like.)
My mind's all bottled, Sithborg. You're my only hope.
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I think I can do this (if my math is wrong, hopefully someone will tell me...)
First, a few definitions:
No Blasters! (Does not count as the nearest target for characters without Melee Attack)
Target: An enemy character chosen for an attack, special ability, or Force power. Line of sight and cover are determined by drawing lines to the target’s space. A square itself can’t be a target.
Cover: Characters and certain kinds of terrain provide cover against attacks. A character can attack an enemy with cover only if it’s the nearest enemy. A character with cover gets a +4 bonus to Defense.
Under normal circumstances (and many special abilities aside), a legal target is any character the attacker has line of sight to.
However, per the underlined text, a character with with cover can be attacked only if it's the nearest enemy.
No Blasters! means that Wuher never counts as a the nearest target for a character without Melee Attack... but unless he has cover, whether he is the nearest target or not does not matter.
It's basically a variation of Stealth, with different activating criteria. Both Stealth and No Blasters! are great protection--on the condition that you have cover. Without cover, they offer no benefit.
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captaingig wrote:Sithborg, could you clarify your first bullet above? You speak of cover, but the SA doesn't mention cover. "Does not count as the nearest target for characters without Melee Attack." I take this to mean, if the acting character doesn't have Melee Attack Wuher says, "Na-na na-na boo-boo, I'm not the closest to you! Your princess is in another castle. This isn't the barman you're looking for." Sorry, couldn't help myself. However, how would that work with adjacent characters without Melee? As I read this I think he'd still not be the nearest target, even if adjacent. (Passing over Indiscriminate and the like.)
My mind's all bottled, Sithborg. You're my only hope. He isn't the nearest enemy, even if adjacent. However, that doesn't mean he can't be targeted. The only part when it matters if he is the nearest enemy or not only applies when Wuher has cover. You can only target an enemy in cover if they are the nearest enemy. If they are adjacent or don't have cover, it doesn't matter if they are the nearest or not, they are a legal target and can be attacked. As gwek mentioned, it is essentially a reworded Stealth.
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