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Darthbane53
Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 8:21:37 AM
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It began with the mysterious pyramid ships--the Tho Yor--scattered to the eight corners of the galaxy, and ended with the establishment of an Order that would change the universe forever.

Here's your first look at the Star Wars of 25,000 years ago--before there were lightsabers, when the ties to the Force were new, and before the Jedi spread out into the galaxy.


Ok, this has been something I have been thinking about for a long time and think it would be a really cool idea. As you all know currently the game has 9 factions plus fringe. This is a good selection for you to choose from but the last new thing we recived was mandalorians. This was in september of 2006, which was almost 6 years ago. The game has evolced alot since then and I think with the V-sets surging forward maybe it would be a nice time to introduce a new faction and flavor to the game. I thought a long time about what this could be, because as of now we have a faction represented for every sect and group. Then a stop at my local comic shop gave me and idea. I picked up the new comic book "Dawn of the Jedi".
This comic is set 36453 years BBY, a whole new era. In it we are introduced to are the birth of the Je'daii (Jedi) and the faction of the Infinite Empire. Which is my main proposition for a new faction. With new comic books planed on to be coming out about this era we will get more and new characters that could add a new flavor to the game. A force heavy faction but not power houses, but stronger grunts. (A melee equivilant to the mandos if youd like)
As a possible "Sister Faction" to this (Empire to rebels and Republic to Seperatists) I would propose the Je'daii, the first primitave force sensatives. Like the Infinite empire they are a force heavy grunt faction, which is something new to the game.
I believe that these factions would introduce a new style to the game, and now with us, the players, in control of it from here on out we could use this oppertounity how ever we liked and for it in to a compleatly new and unique factions with its own strengths and weaknesses. And now that this era has been introduced to Star Wars lore I believe it will only expand. Written by John Ostrander, the man who brought us the Legacy Era, we are bound to see many more and new dynamic and well thought out characters.
Any one who has any suggestions, ideas, comments or critique please let me know and they are appreciated and discuss it with the community. This could be the awesome start of something new or a total bust but it never hurt to try! Below are a few sample stats of characters for each faction and what they would represent. Thanks for reading!

Infinite Empire

Xesh 32
Hit Points: 120
Defense: 21
Attack: 12
Damage: 20
Special Abilities
Unique
Cunning Attack (+4 Attack and +10 Damage against an enemy who has not activated this round)
Melee Attack (Can attack only adjacent enemies)
Evade (When hit by an attack from a nonadjacent enemy, this character takes no damage with a save of 11)
Parry (When hit by a melee attack, this character takes no damage with a save of 11)
Charging Assault +10 (Replaces turn: Can move up to double speed, then make an attack at +10 Damage against an adjacent enemy)
Force Hound (Any enemy character with a force rating may not redirect any attacks from any character on this characters team and is always a legal target following normal targeting rules. This character counts as a character whos name contains Force Hound.)
Force PowersForce 5
Lightsaber Defense Force 1: When hit by an attack, this character takes no damage with a save of 11
Lightsaber Precision Force 1: This character gets +10 Damage on his next attack
Force Leap Force 1: This turn, this character can move through enemy characters without provoking attacks of opportunity
Xesh was a Force-sensitive slave of the Infinite Empire, trained as a Force Hound by the Rakatas. He was the servant of Rakatan Predor Tul'kar.

Predor Tul'Kar 17
Hit Points: 40
Defense: 15
Attack: 8
Damage: 20
Special Abilities
Unique
Melee Attack (Can attack only adjacent enemies)
Infinite Empire (Infinite Empire this character counts as a member of the Infinite Empire faction)
Force PowersForce 1
Force Renewal 1 This character gets 1 Force point each time he activates
Force Lightning 1 Force 1, replaces attacks: range 6; 20 damage
Force Grip 1 Force 1, replaces attacks: sight; 10 damage
Commander Effect Allies whos name contains Force Hound gain +2 attack and +2 defense.

Tul'kar was a Predor of the Infinite Empire, and master of the Force Hound Xesh.

Predor Skal'nad 26
Hit Points: 90
Defense: 19
Attack: 11
Damage: 20
Special Abilities
Unique
Melee Attack (Can attack only adjacent enemies)
Twin Attack (Whenever this character attacks, he makes 1 extra attack against the same target)
Infinite Empire (Infinite Empire this character counts as a member of the Infinite Empire faction)
Experienced Commander (Allies whos commander effects have a range of 6 are increased to a range of 8)
Ruthless Killer (This character gains +4 attack and +10 damage against unique enemys with 30 hit points or less)

Force Powers
Force 3
Force Alter Force 1: range 6; any 1 enemy rerolls its last attack
Dispassionate Killer Force 1: +4 Attack and +20 Damage until the end of this character's turn. At the end of that turn, make a save of 11. If the save fails, this character is immediately defeated.

Commander Effect Infinite Empire allies gain Ruthless Killer


Je'daii


Je'daii Temple Master 24
Hit Points: 70
Defense: 16
Attack: 10
Damage: 20
Special Abilities
Melee Attack (Can attack only adjacent enemies)
Double Attack (On his turn, this character can make 1 extra attack instead of moving)
Je'daii (This character counts as part of the Je'daii faction)

Force Powers
Force 5
Force Alter Force 1: range 6; any 1 enemy rerolls its last attack
Force Blast Force 1, replaces attacks: range 6; 20 damage save 11
Force Leap Force 1: This turn, this character can move through enemy characters without provoking attacks of opportunity
Force Push 1 Force 1, replaces attacks: range 6; 10 damage; push back target 1 square if Huge or smaller
Master Speed Force 1: This character can move 6 extra squares on his turn as part of his move
The Je'daii Order were an order of Force-sensitives based on the Deep Core planet Tython, founded circa 36,453 BBY. The order contained several positions, including that of Padawan, Journeyer, Ranger, Master and Temple Master.

Je'daii Ranger 16
Hit Points: 30
Defense: 15
Attack: 11
Damage: 10
Special Abilities
Mobile Attack (Can move both before and after attacking)
Triple Attack (On his turn, this character can make 2 extra attacks instead of moving)
Je'daii (This character counts as part of the Je'daii faction)

Force Powers
Force 3
Foresight Force 3, use this power when determining initiative, you choose who wins initiative on any roll but a 1
Force Calm Force 1;This figure gets +4 attack this turn


Jd'daii Journeyer 13 Hit Points: 40
Defense: 14
Attack: 7
Damage: 10
Special Abilities
Melee Attack (Can attack only adjacent enemies)
Twin Attack (Whenever this character attacks, he makes 1 extra attack against the same target)
Double Attack (On his turn, this character can make 1 extra attack instead of moving)
Pathfinder (Allies are not slowed by difficult terrain within 6 squares of this character)
Je'daii (This character counts as part of the Je'daii faction)

Force Powers
Force 4
Knight Speed Force 1: This character can move 4 extra squares on his turn as part of his move
Force Cloak Force 2, replaces turn: For the rest of the skirmish, this character gains Cloaked
Surprise Move Force 1; Once per round, after initiative is determined, this character can immediately move up to his Speed before any other character activates
As a scout of the new expanding order of the Je'daii, journeyers paved the path but also stayed in the shadows and were quick and agile.

You can find more stats for more characters of this factions under my custom set "Dawn of the Jedi"
surf_rider56
Posted: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 5:02:52 AM
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The Je'daii aren't really well known enough to create their own faction. Maybe the Rakatan Infinite Empire is possible. We know a little more about them, but not that much ... yet. I guess it depends on the new comic and how detailed they get.
adamb0nd
Posted: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 5:11:37 AM
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I'm not really in favor of this. Its a fun idea, but I think we're still at a point where we're struggling to make all factions "playable" at the same level of competition. A new faction would have to take up quite a bit of its first set to provide any form of diversity in build.

If anything, I think sub factions are the way to go, like Zaan and Black sun. This way you're just enhancing a particular faction rather than taking on the huge project of creating something new that is going to essentially thin out the other factions, who have more than enough work waiting for them with remakes of characters, etc.

AdmiralMotti89
Posted: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 5:15:11 AM
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It would do more harm than good to create a new faction unless something as big as the Vong came along in future books or something.

By the way, Double/Twin on a 13 point piece with surprise move seems a little out there.
FlyingArrow
Posted: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 5:47:05 AM
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The best bet for a new 'faction' would be Fringe pieces that can only be in squads with other Fringe pieces. People who are truly independent. Enough of those, and running a pure-Fringe squad may be viable.
AndyHatton
Posted: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 7:54:18 AM
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FlyingArrow wrote:
The best bet for a new 'faction' would be Fringe pieces that can only be in squads with other Fringe pieces. People who are truly independent. Enough of those, and running a pure-Fringe squad may be viable.


I like this idea...especially since I like a lot of the mini-factions within Fringe (Zann Consortium.)

There is a skirmish game called Malifaux where one of the Factions is "Outcast." Outcasts are a seperate faction but have several pieces with an ability called Mercenary which lets them play with opposing factions (for an additional cost.) I'd love to see Fringe pieces with a Special Ability that is the opposite of that. Too bad Independent Outfit is already a SA because that would have been the perfect ability name.

But something like Independent Syndicate: "This character may only be in a squad with other Fringe Pieces."

Or even going further; something like:

House Renliss: "This character may only be in a squad with other characters who have House Renliss"
General_Grievous
Posted: Thursday, March 1, 2012 1:05:54 AM
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I can't see it happening but would totally be for it, especially a new rakkatan faction! In the meantime while they get fleshed out here is some more sub faction ideas:

Imperial:
Chiss may only be in a squad with Chiss characters, fringe characters or a character whose name contains Fel or Thrawn
Captain Thrawn
Baron Fel, Commandr of the the hand
Commander Jagged Fel (affinity new republic/Jaina)
Sev'rance Tann (affinity seps)
Chiss Clawcraft Pilot (RM Tie pilot)
Chiss Stormtrooper
Chiss Elite Stormtrooper
Empire of the Hand Stormtrooper
Different Empire of the hand alien stormtroopers (some with regen, pheromones, other weird species abilities, the options are near limitless)
Chiss Aristrocra 
Chiss Expansionary Defense Force Soldier

Separatist:
Nightsisters

Mother Talzin (RM nightsister sith witch)
40, hp 100, def 19, ATk 0, dmg 0
SA
Unique
Nightsister
Melee Attack
Stable Footed
Disciplined Leader
Force 5
Force Net (force 2; this power does affect characters with force immunity, replaces attacks, sight, 20 damage to one enemy and each adjacent character)
Force Lightning 5
Force Bubble
Force Conceal (Force 4; replaces turn; adjacent nightsister character with a force rating has invisibility for the rest of the skirmish)
Force Dominate
CE
Allied character named Asajj Ventress gains nightsister

Allied Character named Savage Opress gains Dark Armor

Asajj Ventress, Nightsister (RM Asajj Ventress)
33, hp 110, def 20, Atk 12, dmg 20
SA
Unique
Nightsister
ninman style
melee attack
twin attack
Assassin
Force 4
Master of the Force 2
Force Leap
Knight Speed
Lightsaber Block

Fringe:

Killik (RM verpine tech)
Cost 10, hp 70, def 15, atk 6, dmg 20
SA
Killik (can only be on a team with fringe characters and characters with Killik special ability)
Melee attack
Swarm +5 for Killik 
Charging Assualt 
Wall climber
Speed 10
Poison +20

Others:
Lomi Plo
Welk
Raynar Thul
Ambrosia dealer
Joiner


Hapan
Hapan (can only be on a team with fringe characters and characters with Hapan special ability)

Give them all shields 1/2

Ta'a Chume
gun of control (replaces attacks; one target living enemy in line of sight joins your squad for the remainder of the round, save 11)

Prince Isoldor (synergy Djo)
Teneniel Djo (Synergy Isolder)
Tenal ka
Hapan Woman
Hapan pilot
Hapan soldier
Hapan pirate
Hapan Pirate Captain
Hapan Gunslinger
Hapan Shield Technician
Biggsy
Posted: Thursday, March 1, 2012 4:32:16 PM
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Personally, i hope we will never see a new faction. It would be awkward introducing one at this point in the game. But i'm all for expanding the subfactions we already have, as well as adding some new ones.
The introduction of the Zann Consortium was really cool, mostly because i played that game an awful lot. Now we just need Jabba/Hutts to be a worthy competitor to the Zann/Black Sun crime syndicates. Also, the nightsisters are turning out to become a nice litte subfaction now. I also like the idea of all-fringe squads.
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