Interesting pairings. Sadly, two of the underdogs don't have renewal, or I'd like their chances a lot more.

Oh well. Crazy stuff happens, so we shall see. :)

I may be crazy (probably not) but I dont see JWM or Jarel coming out on top in any case...with point differences of 60+ I just dont see it happening, no matter what D20 your using.

Here were my thoughts of who was going to win off the bat. And I was about 95% sure it'd come out that way.

Mace Windu, Legacy of the Light Side vs. Shaak Ti, Jedi Master
Lord Vader vs. Jarael
Grandmaster Luke Skywalker vs. Kol Skywalker
Darth Bane vs. Jedi Weapon Master

Mace versus Shakk Ti- First round, Shaak Ti won init, and decided to move just close enough to Mace without letting him gain any attacks on her, while Mace based her. Second round, Mace won init and proceeded to pound Shaak Ti. First roll- 19. Critical. Shaak Ti tries to block the tremendous blow, but an easy force absorb by Mace took away any chances of not taking the damage. Flurry attack- 8. Also a hit. 80 damage so far, and 2 attacks left. Second attack- 7. A miss, due to Shaak Ti's Lightsaber Duelist. Mace, not scared of taking damage from her, just went on to the next attack. Third attack- 1. Now this is unacceptable, so Mace rerolls. Rerolled attack- 17. Critical! Now, with Mace using the force twice already, Shaak Ti tries to block the fatal blow. Lightsaber Block roll- an 8. Shaak Ti stood no chance against Mace. It was as one sided as it gets. Winner- Mace Windu

Lord Vader versus Jarael- Looking at this matchup beforehand, it seemed to me to be the most one-sided fight of the group. First round, Vader wins init(with a 20, he's ready for blood). Vader runs his 6, and bases Jarael. Vader uses Lightsaber Assault and Overwhelming Force to start it off, so Vader only needed 5's to hit, and Jarael could not parry his attacks. First attack- 5. 20 damage. Twin- 3. Vader got careless! Second attack- 14. 40 damage. Twin- 7. 60 damage in all. Vader was not scared of this pipsqueak. Jarael, with only 10 hp left, decides to fight for her life and Triple attack Vader, needing 11's to hit. First attack- 7. A miss. This can't be good for her. Second attack- 6. Jarael is clinging to the life she has left, but decides to give it another try with a reroll. Reroll- 19. A hit! Vader's Dark Armor- 18. Vader just laughed in Jarael's face at her futile attempts. Last Attack from Jarael- 4. A miss. At this point, it was safe to say Vader had this. But, Jarael had a glimmer of hope. Jarael wins init, and proceeded to attack again. First attack- 4. Miss. Second attack- 19. Hit! And maybe a chance of activation! Vader's Dark Armor- 18. No damage. His activation roll- 5. This shock angered Vader, so he decided to reroll- 17. No activation. Jarael's last attack, and chance of survival- 19. Another chance! Dark Armor- 19. No damage again. Actvation roll- 11. Her hopes are shattered. Vader activates, and uses Overwhelming Force. First attack- 15, which finishes off Jarael. There is no hiding or blocking Vader. Winner- Lord Vader

Grandmaster Luke versus Kol. The Master and the descendant. I find this matchup also to be very one-sided. Luke is the ultimate melee and anti-melee piece, and Kol is all about melee. First round, Kol wins initiative and does a very interesting move. He uses FP2 and runs away six, leaving GML slightly disoriented, and confused by his descendants lack of genitalia. Luke, however, decides to show Kol who's boss by using Master Speed and Run Faster to reach 14 squares and perform a twin, needing 6's to hit. Luke's 1st attack- 8. 20 damage. 2nd attack- 19. Another hit. Kol tries to block this one, but fails(rolled an 8) and takes the blow- 40 damage. Second Round, Kol wins init again, and proceeds to try and pound on Luke with everything he can, needing a 9 to hit. First attack- 9. Hit for 20. Luke laughes and proceeds to attack back(rolled a 15) with Djem So Mastery. Attacks- 13 and 7. 50 damage, Kol is at 40 left. Kol attacks again- 6. A miss. Luke activates and proceeds to finish Kol off with Triple twin. First twin- 8 and 7, which deals 40 damage to kill Kol. Kol as a final act tries to Riposte, but Luke denies him by Force Canceling. Another very 1 sided battle. Winner- Grandmaster Luke

Darth Bane versus Jedi Weapons Master- Is it bad that I thought beforehand this would be the closest fight of the four? First Round, Bane wins initiative and runs in like the tank he is and and drops a Lightsaber assault and Sith rage on the Weapons Master, a 20 attack for 50 a pop. First attack- 7. A hit for 50. The Jedi fought for his life, and tried to block this onslaught, but failed(rolled a 3). Second attack- 15, and a quick death for the Jedi. This ended faster than any off the other fights, ending in the first round. But, i guess since it is Bane, that's how it should be. Winner- Darth Bane

It came out how I anticipated it. The 4 winners won by a large margin. The challengers didn't stand a chance. Of course, it ended how it should of, since it was two of the most powerful Sith Lords and two of the most powerful Jedi ever.

I don't see how he beats Luke, though. Mace needs the crits to out do Luke's Djem So damage. Even with Ripostes and Crits, Mace still needs 3 to kill Luke, which is the exact amount of Djem So's Luke needs to kill Mace.

There's also a school of thought that Grand Master Luke is well and truly over-costed, by 30 points or so.

He really is. If you could boost him some, he could maybe be worth it. Triple/Twin with the best stats in the game could potentially go a long way, but he still only does 40dmg on the move.

Epics aren't in this puppy. They could make their way in at a later date - but let's see how these guys handle themselves! Any more results coming in?

Not likely. Again, Luke needs 3 Djem So Mastery saves to kill Mace, since he needs 3's to hit, safe assumption that he will hit. Mace needs 3 CRITS to kill Luke. Even with Riposte, the odds are still very much in Luke's favor of taking out Mace. If this was a squad question, then it would be a different debate. Mace cannot beat one on one Luke if he only gets 1, or even 2, 60 damage hits, even with Riposte. Luke will be saving his FPs for Djem So rerolls, since that will be the majority of his damage output.

With squads it would be a different matter. My comment was that you thought Mace was undercosted because he could possibly take out Luke with him, therefore, Mace is overcosted because there are 2 Vaders that can do the same to Mace, heck, they could even survive it.