He has won one out of 5 of the Regionals. If you not the top 4, you will also notice he isn't exactly burning up the top tables.

I don't think many were arguing against him being a competitive piece, most were arguing against him being overpowered. I think Regionals has shown this.

I know for my personal playstyle, he is a bit to unreliable for me.

Regionals are less competitive than Gencon, you're taking any comments about Mace out of context, 1 out of 5 regionals is really not very good, he's losing a lot more than he's winning, small sample size, etc. Take your choice of proof that this doesn't change anything about what anyone said. Getting to the top 4 just 1 in 20 times sounds pretty bad to me considering he's been played probably more regularly than any other squad type this year, but you take those odds if you'd like.

I won a regional with Plo Koon Jedi Master. I guess I'll claim he is tier 1 too.

IMO, this is the most surprising Regional winning squad of the 200 point era:

Colorado Springs, CO (May 9th 2010)
62 Boba Fett, Bounty Hunter
55 Grand Master Yoda
34 Quinlan Vos, Infiltrater
15 Lobot, CLO
11 ARF Trooper
9 R2-D2, Astromech Droid
8 Mas Amedda
6 Ugnaught Demolitionist x2

Not that it's bad, it just has lots of pieces that don't normally win tournaments.

lol, back before vsets i could see that actually.

Force immune shooters are being run to counter Bastilla more than Mace, and further, squads such as echani squads were great last year as well. Urbanjedi's squad did not change a bit. I suppose you could say its anti-Mace, but his wife made it over a year ago.

As for people running Weir, again, I think it's versatility and anti-Bastila as much as anything. I've yet to talk to anyone who said they built their winning squad solely to combat Mace, which is not true of a couple of years ago.

I think you overstate the point. Just because a squad is good against Mace, does not mean the designer made it to combat Mace specifically. High damage shooters have always been good and popular. This is one of the exact things we actually said in the Great Mace debates, that there were already plenty of squads out there that would keep Mace in check. Most of which were present in their basic same form before we released Mace.

Unnecessary comment.

Here's a question. If Matt had won in Michigan (3-2 with a version of one of my Vong squads), would that have counted as "anti-Mace"? Does my Sith squad count? I beat a Mace squad easily in Michigan, but oddly enough, I didn't even consider Mace while designing it. It was designed entirely to test Zannah for some future Sith designs that we had concerns about, and I needed to run Zannah in a tournament to get a real feel for the piece.

I think you are generalizing too strongly, and making claims the evidence does not support. Again, you'd have to ask the people who won all these events, what they designed around. But I can promise you, having talked with quite a few people, that they aren't concerned with Mace the way GOWK was an issue a couple of years ago. Which was my primary point. Sure, some consider Mace. I think tank squads in general are pretty good, and I've yet to see what I consider the best Mace squad played by a top player as of yet. But you can still make a pretty awesome tank squad with other pieces as well. I believe one went 3-2 at Michigan, from an average player.

But finally, you can trust we will keep watching the results, doesn't matter which regional they come from. The skill of the players always matters, but please don't make it into an elitist thing. We've had far too much of those kinds of drama through the years. You all know skill matters at least as much as the pieces on the board, there's no need to make dismissive rude comments about it.

What exactly are you after here? Do you want people to line up and say "you were right, we were wrong, Mace is the greatest thing since sliced bread" I really hope not, but that seems to be what you want.

Mace won a regional, get over it. Mando's with a czerka build won a regional too. As did a spit swarm. You should be saying Hinkbert, a guy that has gone out of his way to study and learn from some of the best players in the game, came up with an awesome strategy, played exactly as he needed to, and used characters in new and interesting ways enough to both confuse and overwhelm his opponents who weren't ready for it won a regional. Cause thats what happened.

Instead you made it about you.

If you look at the guys that have won all the regionals until now. Every single one of them played the best on that given day, and going in were considered among the better players. Some random guy didn't show up with a squad and win. The only Mace squad that has even cracked top 4 was this one, and he got some help from some friendly dice backed by a solid gameplan.

Please get off your soapbox about mace dude. He's a good piece but I'm really tired about hearing about him.

Personally, I don't think any squad right now is going to do well if it is built to beat a narrow build of squads. With as diverse as the game is right now your best off with a balance and a squad that can handle playing against a lot of tactics. A well built Mace squad, paired with either Gowk or Skyguy or whoever else, can do that. You just need to look past the fact that Mace can do a lot of damage, and maximizes his other strengths while remembering that 1 crit from him can change the entire game.

I just like that Mace makes it possible to build low activation squads and win. If there's anything I have grown sick of since returning to this game it's "fodder". But hey, that's just me.

And I completely agree. It is an easier squad to run. But, no matter the skill level of a squad, the person behind the squad makes all the difference. Another thing- It's so hard to consider what really is too powerful now because of the fact that it all comes down to who you face, not how good your squad is. If you run Mace at a regional with no vong, you have a higher chance of winning. Simple as that. Again, I'm not taking anything away from Hinkbert. I suck at using Mace haha that's not my playstyle at all.

I would never say that either. Melee pieces are always harder to run than shooters. Congrats on the win btw!