I don't think it is within 6 squares of Qui-Ghost, it's within 6 squares of the defeated Unique force user.
Not sure if it's disrupted though.

I don't believe the wording supports this conclusion.

As I read it, this is a standard range 6 CE, extendable by Mas/Mice. The defeated character can be anywhere, but either Qui-Gon or a mouse and the receiver must be within range of each other.

Also, I doubt the position of the defeated character has any bearing with regard to Disruptive.


Clarification please?

WOW. Seemed clear the first several times I read it. Now it doesn't.
Wouldn't the defeated character be part of the CE? And thus Disrupted?

I'm actually rethinking this a bit. I thought that disruptive wouldn't work on the condition character at first, but take a look at these.

Here's just a description of Qui-Gon's CE:
"Whenever a Unique follower with a Force rating is defeated by an enemy, a Unique follower with a Force rating within 6 squares gets the defeated character's remaining Force points"

Here's disruptive:
"Enemy commander effects have no effect (on enemies and allies alike) within 6 squares of this character.

Characters within 6 squares cannot receive the benefits (or the penalties) of enemy commander effects until they move out of range. An enemy commander within 6 squares has its commander effect suppressed until it moves out of range. (It still counts as a commander.)

A character who starts its turn outside this range and whose speed is modified by a commander effect continues to move at that speed for the rest of its turn, even if it comes within 6 squares of this character. Conversely, a character that begins its turn within range cannot have its speed modified by an enemy commander effect for the rest of its turn, even if it moves farther than 6 squares from this character."

I think that losing your Force points counts as a penalty, so disruptive would work.

Again, this is just my reading of it. It doesn't specify "a Unique follower within 6 squares of the defeated character". Without that kind of wording the range should counted from the commander. It's using the standard wording for range 6 CEs.

As to MC's penalty comment, it's kind of weird to argue that a dead character is being penalized by helping an ally.

I'd side with swinefeld as the CE doesn't really affect the defeated character at all, the defeated character is just a condition applied to the target of the CE.

I see the main question stemming from gaining the defeated characters force points, if it was reworded to "gained a number of force points equal to the remaining force points of the defeated character" would there be any doubt - no because the only character actually affected by the CE would be the target.

It really depends on intent at this point.

#1/3 - Just to parse the wording a bit more, it does not say the defeated character grants it's Force points to the follower, it says the follower "gets" them. Quiggy is already One with the Force and is brokering the transfer. ;)

Lord Ball's rewording above puts it in perspective nicely in my view. Using "gets" saves some text, and the card is full as it is. :)


"within 6" usually means "within 6 of this character"

Exactly. Making an exception to that could be opening a big can of worms.
If the intent is #2, I'd say an errata is needed.

"Whenever a Unique follower with a Force rating is defeated by an enemy, a Unique follower with a Force rating within 6 squares gets the defeated character's remaining Force points"

This is what I see. Replace the second "Unique follower with a Force rating" with "beneficiary" and you get;

"Whenever a Unique follower with a Force rating is defeated by an enemy, a beneficiary within 6 squares gets the defeated character's remaining Force points"

Wow, wow, wow. My head hurts.

I like reading the different opinons. Nice and civilized.

So the answer is #1?
I made the mistake of using #3 in one of my games, not that it would've made any difference, because Jar Jar already had a ton of FP.
Thanks for the ruling, Sithborg! I agree with that sidenote #1.