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pastorbudwine@mac.com
Posted: Friday, January 25, 2013 9:50:49 AM
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Hello Fellow Bloomilkers!

After a lot of talk with fellow gamers and some back and forth here on Bloomilk I would like to put forth a new community project. A Professionally Printed Scenario Book with a few Extras. In order to make this a reality I need your help. I would like to start collecting different types of game play / Scenarios / Campaigns. If you have some tried an true games that you and your play group love to play send them to me so I can begin to compile them. Here is what I am looking for

Types of games
-Different types of Constructed play
-Dynamic Duo / Fantastic four variants
-King of the Ring
-King of the Hill
-Rancor Madness
-3D Jedi Battles
-Mass Battles (What do you do with 100 Storm Troopers, LETS MAKE SOMETHING UP)

Scenarios
-Era Based
-Objective Based
-Movie or TV show Based
-Capture the Flag
-V-set Based
-Micro Set Based
-Other Tried and True

Campaigns
-Conquer the Galaxy Type games
-Era Based
-ect


These are all ideas that have not been fleshed out yet. If you think that this would be an awesome Idea and want to help by play testing or coming up with your own games please contact me and we will work on this together. I will need lots of help to make this a reality from play testers, to designers, to the random guy with ideas we need everyones help.

I have been thinking about binding for this as well and while an hard cover book would look awesome it would be really expensive. however something like a carefully designed binder with cool artwork on the from where we could keep adding sections year after year might be ideal.

tell me what you think all comments, questions and ideas are welcome
corranhorn
Posted: Friday, January 25, 2013 7:15:43 PM
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This is a neat idea- I'd be up for putting together some scenarios.
swinefeld
Posted: Friday, January 25, 2013 8:17:08 PM
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I like this idea.

There are many, MANY formats and scenarios floating around out there. A nice printed collection would be pretty cool to have. I like the binder idea - keep the cost down and easier to expand.

There were a handful of fun constructed formats my old playgroup ran. I'll track down the details and pass them along when I get a chance.

Stuff I'd like to see in such a collection:

- Well documented Mass Battle rule sets covering the different eras.
- various team skirmish formats (2 vs 2 etc)
- stuff focused on using all the vehicles and creatures that don't see play

So yeah, all the stuff you listed looks good. I have a few big projects going right now, but as I have time I'll start collecting together all the random stuff I have on my computer and elsewhere.
FlyingArrow
Posted: Friday, January 25, 2013 8:24:11 PM
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I linked to it elsewhere, but we have a plot-driven 4-skirmish campaign for capture and escape, where the result of each skirmish determines the format of the next skirmish. It's also flexible - the factions involved are not pre-set. Unfortunately, it links mainly links together generic skirmish styles from Ultimate Missions: Rebel Storm. So you could play it if you have that book, but we wouldn't be able to re-publish the UM:RS scenarios.

But we could at least reference them.
Mando
Posted: Friday, January 25, 2013 9:20:59 PM
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If we get a good collection of formats/scenarios I'd be all for donating money/paying money for this. Maybe we can include it in a upcoming V-set if people donate a little bit more for their sets. Just and idea. Awesome concept though! I wish WotC had done something like this.

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FlyingArrow
Posted: Friday, January 25, 2013 10:09:37 PM
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They kind of did... multiple times. It's just that for the most part people didn't like their scenarios.

Ultimate Missions (3 books). Those failed...
Then scenario packs.
Then the Clone Wars map packs, but they didn't have scenarios.
TimmerB123
Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2013 1:48:11 AM
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Wow, that all looks great.

I may be biased, but I am a bit surprised that you completely missed 2 of the most popular alternate formats. 2 formats that have actually had GenCon tournaments.

TILE WARS (5 years of GenCon TILE WARS championships, and I dare say perhaps the most popular of all alternate formats)
and
Royal Rumble. (The format the team tournament at GenCon last year was, and I dare say quite successful.)

Both of which have long threads with thorough explanations of rules/how to play etc.

Those are gonna have to be in there or it will be woefully incomplete. ;)
corranhorn
Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2013 5:08:22 AM
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FlyingArrow wrote:
They kind of did... multiple times. It's just that for the most part people didn't like their scenarios.

Ultimate Missions (3 books). Those failed...
Then scenario packs.
Then the Clone Wars map packs, but they didn't have scenarios.


I didn't mind the Ultimate Missions books, I'm still trying to pick up a copy of the RS one. It's just that the low number of pieces available constrained a lot of the scenarios. And some were just boring.
DARPH NADER
Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2013 5:09:11 AM
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This is a good idea! BlooMilk

Perhaps a way we could explore would be a skirimish scenario/rules variant insert to the compiled stat card binder that was for sale that I picked up at GenCon. This way we have a centrailized resource that contains lots of goodies.

Tim who was flogging those at GenCon, the print quality was really nice as I look at mine right as I type?
jak
Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2013 5:48:31 AM
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I've a few ideas as well my fellow true Bloos.
who is going to collect the "stories" for the book?--not it!
New ThumbsUp Cool my highest praise to the OP and all who help with this endeavorSmile
swinefeld
Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2013 8:03:19 AM
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TimmerB123 wrote:
Wow, that all looks great.

I may be biased, but I am a bit surprised that you completely missed 2 of the most popular alternate formats. 2 formats that have actually had GenCon tournaments.

TILE WARS (5 years of GenCon TILE WARS championships, and I dare say perhaps the most popular of all alternate formats)
and
Royal Rumble. (The format the team tournament at GenCon last year was, and I dare say quite successful.)

Both of which have long threads with thorough explanations of rules/how to play etc.

Those are gonna have to be in there or it will be woefully incomplete. ;)


I assumed those would be auto-includes.
markedman247
Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2013 10:06:35 AM
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I never got to test this format out but I had an idea of a 2v2 tournament format with a twist:
Lethal Lottery

Create a 100 pt team
Randomly assign a partner (hence, lottery)
When the final teams are at the table, re-randomize into new 2v2.

Jedicartographer
Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2013 10:48:59 AM
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I'll help out with graphics when I can.

Listen, don't take this the wrong way, but put thought into this project. Just don't start crapping out scenarios at a break neck pace out of pure excitement. TREAT IT LIKE A PRODUCT AND A BUSINESS.

I would suggest keeping it separate from the V-set stuff. Make your own stats for new characters, make your own stat cards.Treat it as an entirely separate endeavor.
Jedicartographer
Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2013 10:58:39 AM
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FlyingArrow wrote:
They kind of did... multiple times. It's just that for the most part people didn't like their scenarios.

Ultimate Missions (3 books). Those failed...
Then scenario packs.
Then the Clone Wars map packs, but they didn't have scenarios.


edit,sorry didn't see your original post

Those books didn't fail. Do you know anyone from the inception of the game that doesn't have the books? they probably just werent cost effective. Most of us home game players play themed teams and scenarios anyway, and I am quite convinced at this point that the majority of people still playing this game are the silent masses that don't play competetively, and probably don't even know the vsets exist,

If they put thought into this project and do it right, it will be huge. if they put the effort forth to make it known what they are doing, people will show up.
TimmerB123
Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:26:51 AM
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DARPH NADER wrote:

Tim who was flogging those at GenCon, the print quality was really nice as I look at mine right as I type?


DARTH TED is the man, though unfortunately he is pretty well out of the game, and I think that was his last push to get rid of the last books this last GenCon.

SignerJ
Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:45:21 AM
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I remember a game of 2v2 that we played once for chess and that can be converted into a Star Wars Minis format.

Basically, there are four players, and two teams. Each team has one squad (the points don't really matter). Each player takes turns to activate pieces, switching off each phase. Otherwise, the game is played normally.

The only catch to this is that teammates cannot communicate with each other. I have not played this with Star Wars Minis (it would be near impossible for me), but I know that it definitely made the chess game much more interesting.

So, any thoughts?
FlyingArrow
Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:55:18 AM
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Jedicartographer wrote:
FlyingArrow wrote:
They kind of did... multiple times. It's just that for the most part people didn't like their scenarios.

Ultimate Missions (3 books). Those failed...
Then scenario packs.
Then the Clone Wars map packs, but they didn't have scenarios.


edit,sorry didn't see your original post

Those books didn't fail. Do you know anyone from the inception of the game that doesn't have the books? they probably just werent cost effective. Most of us home game players play themed teams and scenarios anyway, and I am quite convinced at this point that the majority of people still playing this game are the silent masses that don't play competetively, and probably don't even know the vsets exist,

If they put thought into this project and do it right, it will be huge. if they put the effort forth to make it known what they are doing, people will show up.


I joined late (2009), so I don't know how popular they were. By 'failed' I just meant that they stopped making them. But I also haven't heard anyone compliment the scenarios found there. We really like the 'generic' scenarios at the back of UM:RS, but I haven't seen any others that I bothered to try. (I only have RS and CS, not UM:Revenge of the Sith). If there are any scenarios in there that people really like, though, please let me know.
Jedicartographer
Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2013 1:55:36 PM
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FlyingArrow wrote:
Jedicartographer wrote:
FlyingArrow wrote:
They kind of did... multiple times. It's just that for the most part people didn't like their scenarios.

Ultimate Missions (3 books). Those failed...
Then scenario packs.
Then the Clone Wars map packs, but they didn't have scenarios.


edit,sorry didn't see your original post

Those books didn't fail. Do you know anyone from the inception of the game that doesn't have the books? they probably just werent cost effective. Most of us home game players play themed teams and scenarios anyway, and I am quite convinced at this point that the majority of people still playing this game are the silent masses that don't play competetively, and probably don't even know the vsets exist,

If they put thought into this project and do it right, it will be huge. if they put the effort forth to make it known what they are doing, people will show up.


I joined late (2009), so I don't know how popular they were. By 'failed' I just meant that they stopped making them. But I also haven't heard anyone compliment the scenarios found there. We really like the 'generic' scenarios at the back of UM:RS, but I haven't seen any others that I bothered to try. (I only have RS and CS, not UM:Revenge of the Sith). If there are any scenarios in there that people really like, though, please let me know.



Like I said I t hink most casual players really enjoy them, especially people who are SW fans. Most the people I introduced to the game loved going throught the ultimate missions book.

That said, i think making a book that goes beyond normal scenarios is a better idea than just a book of scenarios.
corranhorn
Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2013 2:02:38 PM
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@JC, of course, that goes without saying. I've gone with some questionable rules for my own scenarios as a test of the mechanics, anything like that here would have to be screened. (For example, in an old scenario of mine, The Serum, I used shield rules and careful stealth rules. Most of those would go, as they didn't add anything. Things like that have to be noticed). Speaking of which...


We'll need playtesters. Each scenario and game type should be run through at least once.

@FlyingArrow, I've got only the CS and RotS UM books, but the RotS book in particular had some pretty interesting scenarios. Turbolift car fights, R2 sneaking around the Invisible Hand, and my favorite of all, Anakin's attack on the Seppie leaders on Mustafar. I say "attack on" instead of "butchering of" because the scenario was very, very difficult for Anakin but loads of fun. Very well designed. Among oher goodies, of course.

The CS book was less interesting. One favorite of mine (although I haven't gotten a chance to try it out) is the Rattattak gladiator pit, esp. since there's now a map of that pit! ThumbsUp
corranhorn
Posted: Saturday, January 26, 2013 2:05:07 PM
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Ooooh, idea time! Maybe we could get someone to make a map to include, to go with scenarios that don't fit any maps already made. It could go the D&D starter route of having one of the two sides be made up of two half-sized maps instead of a big one. No pressure on you, JC, there are others could do it.
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