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I read here on this site abiut him really coming out, is that true? If it is what are his stats? thanks
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You can find it on swmresources now, and it will also be released as part of the mini-set with the next v-set shortly.
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Thanks that's great this is what GMLS should have been
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Ok While Luke is good for his cost range , I really don't like him at all, Hes CE?????? Well personally I don't think it suits him at all. Luke with Bodyguard?? Ok maybe be good in game but to me seems out of character. Though the rest of hes CE is better. There are many new Force Powers that have been made for Vsets and Luke really should of had a new FP that makes him stand out and that is unique to him. I am sure others will love him, but not me, Yes he is good for hes cost as mentioned so I am sure I will use him, still disapointed in him all the same.
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dreadtech wrote:Ok While Luke is good for his cost range , I really don't like him at all, Hes CE? Well personally I don't think suits him at all. Luke with Bodyguard?? Ok maybe be good in game but to me seems out of character. As I said good for his cost but this representation of him really has nothing new. I am sure others will love him, but not me I'm with you on the CE. I like the rest of it, though. Keep in mind that the Bodyguard part has to do with the Bounty Hunter's Challenge.
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I like him a lot - he's like a slightly cheaper upgrade for GMLS - it retains a lot of the flavour of the piece. I'm interested to see what will happen when the Bounty Hunter Challenge pieces hit the meta. They might be a bit extreme to do well - they'll probably get ripped apart by swarms (eg Naboo) and by force immune shooters. I'm wondering if Thrawn/Sidious/Vader Unleashed will work at 200 points? It probably doesn't have enough activations to really cut it, but at least Sidious is tough to get damage onto. Unleashed seems like the best Vader to pair with him to take advantage of the force battery and the rapport.
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Ok Fair enough, not really sure what the bounty hunter challenge is so if that's what the bodyguard of hes CE is for Ok. Still think its out of character for who Luke is though. Giving all melee force users Parry or Lightsaber Block or defense would be more in line. Still He will see a lot of play outside of the challenge as well because he is well cost ed for what he has. Still cart look at him and feel he represents Luke as a master though.
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dreadtech wrote:Ok Fair enough, not really sure what the bounty hunter challenge is so if that's what the bodyguard of hes CE is for Ok. It happened during GenCon last year. Jak explains it well in another thread: Quote:BH challage was ran at many times during GC. for $6 you played another SWM gamer on West's new map. If you defeated the "special' characters (sidious & luke), you received the cards for those pieces that are legal to use as of today. So, you get them sooner than any one else And if you don't know about Bounty Hunter Challenge, then you will have missed Darth Jim's charming story: Quote:A father of 2 young boys showed up at the table. One boy looked like he was about 10, one about 7. I got the 7 year old. He wanted to play a squad with the 1 Darth Vader they had, 1 ATST, and the rest of the squad was ewoks. Well, they had 1 ewok card. Someone in the family came up with the idea of using Teddy Grahams as the recommended mini for the ewoks and the 7 year old enthusiastically slapped them down on the map. Well, if any of you have ever played against someone that young, you know that it is more about the experience than the actual gameplay with them. I went along with that, letting him set up all over the board. I came out with Luke and waded right into the middle of his edible figures (Which is a great idea, customizers!) and let them surround him. Like his father before him, Luke started slaughtering these small inoffensive creatures, and after each defeat the boy would grab the Teddy Graham off of the board and eat him. Thus began the game within the game of seeing who could eat the Teddy Grahams as Luke killed them. I managed to get just one by distracting him as I attacked it. Now, during this whole adventure this kid was rolling crazy lucky. He needed like 16 or 17 to hit Luke most of the time yet just kept pounding away. Luke has Lightsaber defense, but there was no way I was wiping the joy off of this kid's face by rolling those, so I let all of the damage he did stick. It came down to a damaged ATST, a damaged Vader, and 1 Teddy Graham at the end when he rolled a crit with the ATST. I DID use lightsaber defense on that one, but failed both save attempts. So... I was totally bested by this 7 year old, not only losing the game but also only getting to consume 1 Teddy Graham. Needless to say, he left with the new cards and a stomach so full it rivaled Jabba's and a huge smile on his face. Favorite game of the whole weekend for me.
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corranhorn wrote:dreadtech wrote:Ok While Luke is good for his cost range , I really don't like him at all, Hes CE? Well personally I don't think suits him at all. Luke with Bodyguard?? Ok maybe be good in game but to me seems out of character. As I said good for his cost but this representation of him really has nothing new. I am sure others will love him, but not me I'm with you on the CE. I like the rest of it, though. Keep in mind that the Bodyguard part has to do with the Bounty Hunter's Challenge. The way I think of it is, not that Luke is telling people to protect him, but that the Jedi Apprentices WANT to protect their Grand Master so they are willing to step in front of the Blaster. I always thought Roan Fel's CE like that too. I like the piece but I love GMLS, he is a crazy, fun piece.
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Well Darth Sid with rapport 10 for a character who counts as Vader is nice. Still as with Luke this version really does not have anything new. Was the idea of the CE initiative part instead of Master Tactician so it could be disrupted?
Hes cost is fine and evade is kinda cool and unexpected for this character. I think I like him just slightly more than Luke, still both might grow on me more when actually used in game.
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dreadtech wrote:Well Darth Sid with rapport 10 for a character who counts as Vader is nice. Still as with Luke this version really does not have anything new. Was the idea of the CE initiative part instead of Master Tactician so it could be disrupted?
Hes cost is fine and evade is kinda cool and unexpected for this character. I think I like him just slightly more than Luke, still both might grow on me more when actually used in game. Rapport 10 is for name contains Darth Vader, not counts as so no Lord Vader or Anakin Skywalkers
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@TheHutts Thanks for the info
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AndyHatton wrote:dreadtech wrote:Well Darth Sid with rapport 10 for a character who counts as Vader is nice. Still as with Luke this version really does not have anything new. Was the idea of the CE initiative part instead of Master Tactician so it could be disrupted?
Hes cost is fine and evade is kinda cool and unexpected for this character. I think I like him just slightly more than Luke, still both might grow on me more when actually used in game. Rapport 10 is for name contains Darth Vader, not counts as so no Lord Vader or Anakin Skywalkers OK, shame, never like the contains abilities much prefer counts as. In this case not been able to take Lord Vader or Anakin really seem pointless to make that stipulation as they are not that great in any-case. It just give players who might not have all vaders to chose from an extra option should they just happen to have one of them. Still not really a big issue, disappointed but can live with it.
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dreadtech wrote:AndyHatton wrote:dreadtech wrote:Well Darth Sid with rapport 10 for a character who counts as Vader is nice. Still as with Luke this version really does not have anything new. Was the idea of the CE initiative part instead of Master Tactician so it could be disrupted?
Hes cost is fine and evade is kinda cool and unexpected for this character. I think I like him just slightly more than Luke, still both might grow on me more when actually used in game. Rapport 10 is for name contains Darth Vader, not counts as so no Lord Vader or Anakin Skywalkers OK, shame, never like the contains abilities much prefer counts as. In this case not been able to take Lord Vader or Anakin really seem pointless to make that stipulation as they are not that great in any-case. It just give players who might not have all vaders to chose from an extra option should they just happen to have one of them. Still not really a big issue, disappointed but can live with it. I'd totally consider using him with Anakin Chosen One if there was Rapport (I don't think you can even get them in the same squad, but I get mixed up about that kind of thing). Palpatine and Lord Vader wouldn't work at 200, but it could be interesting in higher point formats.
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Well I have the advantage there as I often play more than 200 point squads. We randomize our point total from 150-500 points.
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I like Palpy a lot! Looks like a fun piece to run!
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Both pieces are tough outs, I like the idea of pairing Kyp or Jacen JK with Luke in a 200 pt NR build or think on what these two can do in a Tile Wars or Battle Royale format.
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I wish Luke had a special ability making him subject to commander effects, since he and his entire Jedi order were subject to the rule of the Galactic Republic.
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DarkLordVerjal wrote:I wish Luke had a special ability making him subject to commander effects, since he and his entire Jedi order were subject to the rule of the Galactic Republic. Then what you need is a Galactic Republic piece (pick one of the good leaders) with a CE that affects commanders.
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I'm not a fan of this Luke, but I'm sure most would say it's for a silly reason. I don't like that he basically replaces GMLS. GMLS was an iconic piece from WotC - the highest cost piece by far. Sure - not competitive at all. But I would have rather seen boosts for GMLS than a replacement piece. Oh well.
And also, as someone else mentioned, I'm disappointed because it's a new Luke that's not really a new Luke. It's GMLS2. If anyone deserved a new, defining SA or FP this was it.
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