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Yes, Mandalore is a title, not a name.
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Well unless you are playing Mandalore the LEsser ;) haha
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Yes, but you can't have Mandalore on Basilisk and Mandalore the Indomitable (but that's covered by Unique).
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Yes, you can. As has been said "Mandalore" is a title, not a anme. Although I'll admit I've no idea why you asked this in the form of a poll in the Customs section.
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Yes.
*Sigh* I really don't understand what the big deal is. Why does everyone ask this??
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I think it is completely fine. Each Mandalore is a sesperate character. Mandalore is a title like Darth. You can have multiple Darths in one squad so you can have multiple Mandalores.
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Gungan Batman Clone wrote:I think it is completely fine. Each Mandalore is a sesperate character. Mandalore is a title like Darth. You can have multiple Darths in one squad so you can have multiple Mandalores. Unlike the title Dark Lord of the Sith (Darth) where there can be many at any one time, there can only ever be one Mandalore as he is the leader of the Mandalorians. So while most people think it's fine, continuity wise, it is not.
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Prestige Worldwide wrote:Gungan Batman Clone wrote:I think it is completely fine. Each Mandalore is a sesperate character. Mandalore is a title like Darth. You can have multiple Darths in one squad so you can have multiple Mandalores. Unlike the title Dark Lord of the Sith (Darth) where there can be many at any one time, there can only ever be one Mandalore as he is the leader of the Mandalorians. So while most people think it's fine, continuity wise, it is not. And continuity means jack and Sith in SWM, for better or for worse.
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corranhorn wrote:Prestige Worldwide wrote:Gungan Batman Clone wrote:I think it is completely fine. Each Mandalore is a sesperate character. Mandalore is a title like Darth. You can have multiple Darths in one squad so you can have multiple Mandalores. Unlike the title Dark Lord of the Sith (Darth) where there can be many at any one time, there can only ever be one Mandalore as he is the leader of the Mandalorians. So while most people think it's fine, continuity wise, it is not. And continuity means jack and Sith in SWM, for better or for worse. Right, but that is why it is confusing. It would be like a ton of Jedi assuming the Mantle Luke Skywalker, with each only existing one at a time in a lineage way. This question would be like asking if you could play multiple Luke Skywalkers. Does this make more sense now why it is confusing?
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Prestige Worldwide wrote:corranhorn wrote:Prestige Worldwide wrote:Gungan Batman Clone wrote:I think it is completely fine. Each Mandalore is a sesperate character. Mandalore is a title like Darth. You can have multiple Darths in one squad so you can have multiple Mandalores. Unlike the title Dark Lord of the Sith (Darth) where there can be many at any one time, there can only ever be one Mandalore as he is the leader of the Mandalorians. So while most people think it's fine, continuity wise, it is not. And continuity means jack and Sith in SWM, for better or for worse. Right, but that is why it is confusing. It would be like a ton of Jedi assuming the Mantle Luke Skywalker, with each only existing one at a time in a lineage way. This question would be like asking if you could play multiple Luke Skywalkers. Does this make more sense now why it is confusing? Oh, sorry if I wasn't clear. I get why it's confusing, I was just elaborating on what you said.
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Prestige Worldwide wrote:corranhorn wrote:Prestige Worldwide wrote:Gungan Batman Clone wrote:I think it is completely fine. Each Mandalore is a sesperate character. Mandalore is a title like Darth. You can have multiple Darths in one squad so you can have multiple Mandalores. Unlike the title Dark Lord of the Sith (Darth) where there can be many at any one time, there can only ever be one Mandalore as he is the leader of the Mandalorians. So while most people think it's fine, continuity wise, it is not. And continuity means jack and Sith in SWM, for better or for worse. Right, but that is why it is confusing. It would be like a ton of Jedi assuming the Mantle Luke Skywalker, with each only existing one at a time in a lineage way. This question would be like asking if you could play multiple Luke Skywalkers. Does this make more sense now why it is confusing? No, it is a title, not a name. You cannot compare it to a name. A better comparison would be Grand Master of the Jedi Order. There have been multiple of those: Nomi, Yoda, Luke. And if they were in the same faction, you could play them together. Same with Mandalores. As corranhorn said, continuity means jack.
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SignerJ wrote:Prestige Worldwide wrote:corranhorn wrote:Prestige Worldwide wrote:Gungan Batman Clone wrote:I think it is completely fine. Each Mandalore is a sesperate character. Mandalore is a title like Darth. You can have multiple Darths in one squad so you can have multiple Mandalores. Unlike the title Dark Lord of the Sith (Darth) where there can be many at any one time, there can only ever be one Mandalore as he is the leader of the Mandalorians. So while most people think it's fine, continuity wise, it is not. And continuity means jack and Sith in SWM, for better or for worse. Right, but that is why it is confusing. It would be like a ton of Jedi assuming the Mantle Luke Skywalker, with each only existing one at a time in a lineage way. This question would be like asking if you could play multiple Luke Skywalkers. Does this make more sense now why it is confusing? No, it is a title, not a name. You cannot compare it to a name. Incorrect. It was the name of the first leader of the ancient Mandalorians. (Not the first leader of the Taung, but once they "transformed themselves")
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corranhorn wrote:SignerJ wrote:Prestige Worldwide wrote:corranhorn wrote:Prestige Worldwide wrote:Gungan Batman Clone wrote:I think it is completely fine. Each Mandalore is a sesperate character. Mandalore is a title like Darth. You can have multiple Darths in one squad so you can have multiple Mandalores. Unlike the title Dark Lord of the Sith (Darth) where there can be many at any one time, there can only ever be one Mandalore as he is the leader of the Mandalorians. So while most people think it's fine, continuity wise, it is not. And continuity means jack and Sith in SWM, for better or for worse. Right, but that is why it is confusing. It would be like a ton of Jedi assuming the Mantle Luke Skywalker, with each only existing one at a time in a lineage way. This question would be like asking if you could play multiple Luke Skywalkers. Does this make more sense now why it is confusing? No, it is a title, not a name. You cannot compare it to a name. Incorrect. It was the name of the first leader of the ancient Mandalorians. (Not the first leader of the Taung, but once they "transformed themselves") They took the NAME Mandlore and turned it into a TITLE. What Prestige was saying was, what if they did the same thing with Luke Skywalker, where those in his footsteps adopted his name as a title. That's why it is confusing to us, because while on one hand it's currently a title, once upon a time, it was also a name.
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SignerJ wrote:Prestige Worldwide wrote:corranhorn wrote:Prestige Worldwide wrote:Gungan Batman Clone wrote:I think it is completely fine. Each Mandalore is a sesperate character. Mandalore is a title like Darth. You can have multiple Darths in one squad so you can have multiple Mandalores. Unlike the title Dark Lord of the Sith (Darth) where there can be many at any one time, there can only ever be one Mandalore as he is the leader of the Mandalorians. So while most people think it's fine, continuity wise, it is not. And continuity means jack and Sith in SWM, for better or for worse. Right, but that is why it is confusing. It would be like a ton of Jedi assuming the Mantle Luke Skywalker, with each only existing one at a time in a lineage way. This question would be like asking if you could play multiple Luke Skywalkers. Does this make more sense now why it is confusing? No, it is a title, not a name. You cannot compare it to a name. A better comparison would be Grand Master of the Jedi Order. There have been multiple of those: Nomi, Yoda, Luke. And if they were in the same faction, you could play them together. Same with Mandalores. As corranhorn said, continuity means jack. The problem with that thought is that Mandalore was a name first, not a title. And those that take on that title also take on that name, hence Canderous Ordo ceased using that name once he had taken on Mandalore. Whereas there may be multiple Grandmasters such as Yoda, simply because nobody ever called Yoda "Grandmaster", his name was always said. Looking back at Mandalore, noone said Mandalore Canderous Ordo. Am I making sense?
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Darth_Reignir wrote:corranhorn wrote:SignerJ wrote:Prestige Worldwide wrote:corranhorn wrote:Prestige Worldwide wrote:Gungan Batman Clone wrote:I think it is completely fine. Each Mandalore is a sesperate character. Mandalore is a title like Darth. You can have multiple Darths in one squad so you can have multiple Mandalores. Unlike the title Dark Lord of the Sith (Darth) where there can be many at any one time, there can only ever be one Mandalore as he is the leader of the Mandalorians. So while most people think it's fine, continuity wise, it is not. And continuity means jack and Sith in SWM, for better or for worse. Right, but that is why it is confusing. It would be like a ton of Jedi assuming the Mantle Luke Skywalker, with each only existing one at a time in a lineage way. This question would be like asking if you could play multiple Luke Skywalkers. Does this make more sense now why it is confusing? No, it is a title, not a name. You cannot compare it to a name. Incorrect. It was the name of the first leader of the ancient Mandalorians. (Not the first leader of the Taung, but once they "transformed themselves") They took the NAME Mandlore and turned it into a TITLE. What Prestige was saying was, what if they did the same thing with Luke Skywalker, where those in his footsteps adopted his name as a title. That's why it is confusing to us, because while on one hand it's currently a title, once upon a time, it was also a name. ...I know, that was my point.
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Current debate aside for a moment:
Just to clarify, as mentioned above Mandalore the Lesser has a Rival SA which forbids playing him with any other Unique with Mandalore in its name.
Mandalore on Basilisk counts as Mandalore the Indomitable (same persona, and is stated on his card) so you cannot run both of them together.
Mandalore the Preserver counts as Canderous Ordo (same deal)
On Bloomilk, you have to look at the Counts As: descriptor under the name, as the Unique SA is not defined individually in the database. (See Affinity/Rapport/Synergy etc. for how messy that gets)
In case anyone was wondering...
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swinefeld wrote:Current debate aside for a moment:
Just to clarify, as mentioned above Mandalore the Lesser has a Rival SA which forbids playing him with any other Unique with Mandalore in its name.
Mandalore on Basilisk counts as Mandalore the Indomitable (same persona, and is stated on his card) so you cannot run both of them together.
Mandalore the Preserver counts as Canderous Ordo (same deal)
On Bloomilk, you have to look at the Counts As: descriptor under the name, as the Unique SA is not defined individually in the database. (See Affinity/Rapport/Synergy etc. for how messy that gets)
In case anyone was wondering...
Yes, but this does not answer the question of why is this in the customs thread? LOL or why a poll was needed? Joking aside Swinefeld has covered everything in he's post.
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swinefeld wrote:Current debate aside for a moment:
Just to clarify, as mentioned above Mandalore the Lesser has a Rival SA which forbids playing him with any other Unique with Mandalore in its name.
Mandalore on Basilisk counts as Mandalore the Indomitable (same persona, and is stated on his card) so you cannot run both of them together.
Mandalore the Preserver counts as Canderous Ordo (same deal)
On Bloomilk, you have to look at the Counts As: descriptor under the name, as the Unique SA is not defined individually in the database. (See Affinity/Rapport/Synergy etc. for how messy that gets)
In case anyone was wondering...
I don't think that the problem so much is the rules for whom you can have when, but rather just the /concept/ of what a Mandalore is that confuses everyone. Honestly, I don't see what's so difficult about it.
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I see this debate as more of a continuity issue more than anything else.
While Mandalore the Indomitable, Ultimate, Vindicated, etc. were indeed the one and only Mandalore of their respective era's they are still different individuals regardless of whether they gave up their previous identity.
I understand the argument made for only having one in a squad, I just don't agree with it based upon the continuity (or lackthereof) with regard to how this game was designed. If WotC embraced mixing characters of multiple era's it shouldn't be an issue.
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