|
|
Rank: Advanced Bloo Milk Member
Groups: Member
Joined: 7/28/2013
Posts: 548
|
If GAT is within 6 of an ally that is being attacked, but not within 6 of the enemy that is attacking, can that attacker use force powers of any kind (including re-rolling an attack) against said target?
|
|
Rank: Moderator
Groups: Member
, Moderator, Rules Guy
Joined: 8/24/2008
Posts: 5,201
|
The change to Ysalimari grants Force Immunity. So it is just like attacking a Vong character. So, no rerolls and depends on the Force Power.
|
|
Rank: Advanced Bloo Milk Member
Groups: Member
Joined: 7/28/2013
Posts: 548
|
I am just not sure on if he need to be within 6 of the attacked enemy or the attacker? Maybe it's within 6 of any part of the exchange? I have not played any Vong characters yet.
|
|
Rank: Moderator
Groups: Member
, Moderator, Rules Guy
Joined: 8/24/2008
Posts: 5,201
|
If Thrawn is within 6 of either, his Ysalimari grants Force Immunity and prevents the spending of Force Points. This has different effects on the attack depending if it is the attacker or defender.
|
|
Rank: Advanced Bloo Milk Member
Groups: Member
Joined: 7/28/2013
Posts: 548
|
Can you give an example? Like, can luke's landspeeder re-roll an attack against my at-st if the at-st is within 6 of GAT, but not within 6 of the Landspeeder?
|
|
Rank: Moderator
Groups: Member
, Moderator
Joined: 8/9/2009
Posts: 1,935
|
This thread might help you out http://www.swmgamers.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=1953But in that example no he can't
|
|
Rank: Advanced Bloo Milk Member
Groups: Member
Joined: 7/28/2013
Posts: 548
|
Thanks. Is his list basically correct? or should I be reading all of comments as well?
|
|
Rank: Moderator
Groups: Member
, Moderator
Joined: 8/9/2009
Posts: 1,935
|
I'm pretty sure it is all correct. The comments are helpful for understanding odd interactions.
|
|
Rank: Advanced Bloo Milk Member
Groups: Member
Joined: 7/28/2013
Posts: 548
|
thanks.
|
|
Rank: Advanced Bloo Milk Member
Groups: Member
Joined: 5/14/2008
Posts: 2,063
|
Y-Field has caused headaches since its inception. Ask sometime about the Thrawn v Exar Kun match. The good news is a lot of people have watched the interactions grow step by step. The bad news is every new player who enters this game has to learn about Y-Field/Force Immunity, Diplomat, and, heaven help us, Bombad Gungan from square one.
I find all if these more apt to learn about from hands-on competition (Re: Vassal online) vs reading about it via FAQ or board. Just how I learn.
|
|
Rank: Advanced Bloo Milk Member
Groups: Member
Joined: 7/28/2013
Posts: 548
|
I will eventually.....dive into all that. Can Exar Kun use force essence to replace an ally within 6 of GAT? I would think not? Is that what you were referring to?
|
|
Rank: Advanced Bloo Milk Member
Groups: Member
Joined: 5/14/2008
Posts: 2,063
|
darthbinks1 wrote:I will eventually.....dive into all that. Can Exar Kun use force essence to replace an ally within 6 of GAT? I would think not? Is that what you were referring to? I left this post open because people with better memories than I could clarify. Original ruling during the affected game (GenCon championship?) initially was Exar couldn't transfer in as it was affecting the target (Ugnaught?). This was re-thought after the event and it became that he could transfer in (it affects him not the target), but he can't transfer out once in the affected range.
|
|
Rank: Advanced Bloo Milk Member
Groups: Member
Joined: 7/28/2013
Posts: 548
|
I would have thought that the original ruling was correct. I thought Exar could not transfer in if the ugnaught was within six of GAT? Because it is a force ability, and the ugnaught is within 6? Maybe I do not understand ysalamari after all?
|
|
Rank: Advanced Bloo Milk Member
Groups: Member
Joined: 5/14/2008
Posts: 2,063
|
darthbinks1 wrote:I would have thought that the original ruling was correct. I thought Exar could not transfer in if the ugnaught was within six of GAT? Because it is a force ability, and the ugnaught is within 6? Maybe I do not understand ysalamari after all? Just remember I might be telling the story wrong. Someone with a better memory than I can correct the discrepancies.
|
|
Rank: Advanced Bloo Milk Member
Groups: Member
Joined: 7/28/2013
Posts: 548
|
Either way, thanks for replying.
|
|
Rank: Moderator
Groups: Member
, Moderator
Joined: 5/26/2009
Posts: 8,428
|
He can't spend force points in the affected range, so that's pretty clear.
|
|
Rank: Moderator
Groups: Member
, Moderator
Joined: 1/30/2009
Posts: 6,457
Location: Southern Illinois
|
You cannot Transfer Essence into a character with Force Immunity (so anyone in range of Ysalimiri) as you are directly affecting that character with a Force Power. (removing it from play and defeating it)
|
|
Rank: Advanced Bloo Milk Member
Groups: Member
Joined: 7/28/2013
Posts: 548
|
That's what I thought. Thanks. Feels good to actually play by a correct rule for once ;)
|
|
Rank: Advanced Bloo Milk Member
Groups: Member
Joined: 5/14/2008
Posts: 2,063
|
swinefeld wrote:You cannot Transfer Essence into a character with Force Immunity (so anyone in range of Ysalimiri) as you are directly affecting that character with a Force Power. (removing it from play and defeating it)
I figured I was wrong. Thanks for the clarification. It was a long time ago.
|
|
|
Guest |