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Hinkbert
Posted: Monday, August 19, 2013 9:00:20 AM
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If I have a character with Con Artist (ie Marn) and he's within 6 squares of a character (on my squad) with Disruptive, does Marn lose access to the commander effect that he's utilizing via Con Artist?
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swinefeld
Posted: Monday, August 19, 2013 9:09:42 AM
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Hinkbert wrote:
If I have a character with Con Artist (ie Marn) and he's within 6 squares of a character (on my squad) with Disruptive, does Marn lose access to the commander effect that he's utilizing via Con Artist?


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Enemy commander effects have no effect (on enemies and allies alike) within 6 squares of this character.

Characters within 6 squares cannot receive the benefits (or the penalties) of enemy commander effects until they move out of range. An enemy commander within 6 squares has its commander effect suppressed until it moves out of range. (It still counts as a commander.)


Based on that, I'd say yes.
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FlyingArrow
Posted: Sunday, September 8, 2013 3:07:07 PM
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swinefeld, I don't think that is correct.

See this thread for a more complete discussion, where you'll find Sithborg's ruling:
http://www.bloomilk.com/Forums/default.aspx?g=posts&t=13181
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SignerJ
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Based on FlyingArrow's and my interpretation(s) of Sithborg's ruling, you should perform these check when dealing with interactions between Con Artist and suppressed CEs:

1) Advanced Battle Meditation is on
2) An allied character with Disruptive within 6 of the commander
3) An enemy character with Disruptive is within 6 of your character with Con Artist


If none of those are true, then the character with Con Artist DOES receive the commander effect.


In your situation, then, the answer would be no.


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The relevant parts of FlyingArrow's original post:

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So my Con Artist does not benefit from the enemy CE if...

* My ABM is on, because I've suppressed the commander.
* Your ABM is on, because you've suppressed the beneficiary.
* My Disruptive is within range of your commander, because I've suppressed the commander.
* Your Disruptive is within range of my Con Artist, because you've suppressed the beneficiary.


But it would work under these circumstances (assuming none of the above are true)...

* My Disruptive is within range of my Con Artist. I don't suppress the CE for my own character.
* Your Disruptive is within range of your commander. You don't suppress the CE for your own character.
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swinefeld
Posted: Monday, September 9, 2013 6:14:49 AM
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FlyingArrow wrote:
swinefeld, I don't think that is correct.

See this thread for a more complete discussion, where you'll find Sithborg's ruling:
http://www.bloomilk.com/Forums/default.aspx?g=posts&t=13181


Thanks for the link, the glossary wording was tripping me up.
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