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Sthlrd2
Posted: Saturday, August 24, 2013 9:42:28 AM
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There are many different strategies and playstyles in this great game of SWM. Some tactics are easier to helm than others but if your skilled at a specific tactic, then it shows.

Here is a list of tactics used and the players that I would vote as the best in that specific field. If you have more to add to the list then plz do so or if you want to include someone else as the best pilot then please add them.

Single Lancer - as results have shown time and time again I would have to vote either Tim or Grahm as the best single lancer pilot.

Double Lancer - I've never seen anyone aviate this tactic better than Jason K.

Levitate - (Ganner or Luke rc) I would give my vote to Deri all the way.

Swap - the heavily used and none more popular than Thrawn with stealth-n-blue. I would vote Tim or Darth Jim.

Sith Deep Strike - he started with exar and continues today with lord Krayt, my vote goes to Ben.

Accurate Shot - for his work with the Echanis, I vote Jason K.

Yodabuck - I think his results at numerous Gen Cons speaks for itself. I vote Bill.

Naboo - Hands down Gerry, I don't think I need to say more.

Luke GH - at first it seemed as if no one could figure out the best way to run him. Who would have thought pairing him up with Marn was the way to go. Ricky did and won GC with it. So my vote goes to him.

There are still a number of valid strategies that I havnt touched on yet, so plz help me out.

OR - ? Ian or Weeks?

What about Red Squadron?
DARPH NADER
Posted: Sunday, August 25, 2013 3:42:28 AM
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Seeing the impact Caedus made since the release of GH; perhaps an Caedus/SBM is a valid entry as he was in two winning Regional and at least one runner up squads. Its who he's paired with is the tricky bit, as there are at least four distinct types of builds I've seen in action.

Caedus/Malgus
Caedus/Atton/G.A.S.
Caedus/Zannah
Caedus/Atton/Zam

Overall I believe the greatest sustained tournament success has been the Caedus/Atton/G.A.S. build piloted by you Jake.
Darth_Jim
Posted: Sunday, August 25, 2013 4:34:49 AM
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While I am flattered that I was mentioned here, my recent success was due more to me knowing my particular squad than anything else. I would consider Tim and Bill top Imperial swap players. I know we haven't seen Bill run it in a long time, but he invented it and even if he hasn't played it in awhile he certainly knows the concept.

We didn't see Mace in the meta this year but it is still pretty good. I think Josh championed that pretty well last year, and remnants of his 'homicidal' addition of Dr. E can still be seen in various builds.

Sith Deep Strike was a concept that was popular before I hit the tournament scene and I heard Matt P. was pretty good at it. People who know Ben tell me he's run Sith for a long time so I think he's a good choice as well.

YoBuck, Skybuck: Lou, Lou, Lou...don't forget Lou.

NR: When I think of NR squads in general, I think of Daniel.

Making the unorthodox work: Ricky (also a good NR player) rocked the meta with Marn this year. Bringing a new concept and making it work has always been a strongpoint of Weeks'.

DARPH NADER
Posted: Sunday, August 25, 2013 6:59:55 AM
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Add Trevor's name to the Mace/GOWK theme, from past experience he's Rogue Squadron when it comes to that build. In total agreement with you I am, with regards to David's ability to consistently innovate builds across multiple factions.
thereisnotry
Posted: Sunday, August 25, 2013 9:09:09 AM
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There's no doubt that we have lots of very highly skilled players in our community, each of whom has achieved a degree of success with a given number of squads. But I think there's a difference between having achieved mastery of a certain squad type, and having achieved proficiency with it. For example, I don't think I've mastered the Mace/GOWK squad, though I've obviously learned it really well (as has Josh). IMHO, winning a tournament with a squad doesn't mean you've mastered it...winning multiple big tournaments with a squad says that you might have.

However, year after year, certain players with certain squad builds are always a factor in the meta. I remember this year that people in one of the Regionals (PA I think) were looking for a way to counter the Double Lancer on Muun, since they knew Jason K was coming and that he'd most likely be playing it. Just his presence with that squad was enough to shape the meta; IMHO, that points to mastery of a squad. Until you're at that point, I'd say you're just profiecient (or not) with a squad. I'd place Tim & Graham in the "mastery" category with the Single Lancer too. Outside of those players and squads, I'm not sure who/what else I'd consider for this category.
fingersandteeth
Posted: Sunday, August 25, 2013 11:38:38 AM
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I think this is both a combination of the best squad types/gimmicks and who likes playing them most.

If you look at the names of people named they generally perform well with a lot of different squad types but prefer certain types for the big occasion. No secret i like Levitation but there are other reasons why i love the NR and Rebels for tourneys (Dodonna if you need know). Clearly, other people are successful with the same squad type which points to the strength of the tactics rather than mastery of the ability.

Also, when building squads i don't think I've ever metagamed against a specific player, just a gimmick/squad type.


thereisnotry
Posted: Sunday, August 25, 2013 3:37:07 PM
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fingersandteeth wrote:
Also, when building squads i don't think I've ever metagamed against a specific player, just a gimmick/squad type.
Right. I wasn't saying that people metagame against specific players, but rather, I was describing the reality of people metagaming against certain squads because certain players were going to be playing them (expertly).
Sthlrd2
Posted: Monday, August 26, 2013 7:24:29 AM
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I wrote this thread, not to see who was a master at running their squad techniques but to analyze how many different valid techniques their are in the game right now, when I can remember a time of 2 maybe 3 valid strategies.

And on the players end, maybe nobody has "mastered" it but due to repeat success with it, I would rank them as highly skilled. Or as Mace would say, "you are on this list but we do not grant you the rank of Master". Maybe they are masters, maybe not, just more a celebration of all the Valid techniques and the players who helm them the best that I have seen. And Yes Tim and Grahm, I would also grant them the rank of master in Single Lancer and Jason in double lancer.
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