almost all of my sith 150 combos just do not seem to compete, or if they do, they only come close to winning but still lose. Anyone have some tested 150 builds out there?

Do you use V-sets or not?

I do not run V sets.

Thanks for some replies. I have mainly been trying to run Talon, the dark lady, and just recently Jacen. Malak always seems to get handled pretty fast, but the dash combo has done well in one game, but Obi's soresou won the game!

Do you think an R7 and a Mouse instead of the Gran Raiders and an Ugnaught would help the squad some? Do you usually get two attacks out of Boba, or do you just intuition him out for one each round and pop back into cover?

Sith were fairly poor before the Vsets came out. They had some good stuff, but lacked the cohesion to be able to compete with the big 4. All the good Sith Squads pre-Vsets have already been made and are probably here on the Squad search function. Sith Sorcery is probably their best non-Vset option.

Malak is similar to Republic fighter/commander options in the same range - either GOWK or Grand Master Yoda. All of them are tough enough to be front line fighters, all of them have an attack boosting CE. Yoda is arguably a better attacker (he has the potential for that big Ataru throw if your opponent isn't careful) and a better defender (more hit points, force defense, lightsaber defense) compared to Malak, while GOWK is a limited attacker but can be a tank to bring down. But even if we accept that the three pieces are generally equivalent, I think that GOWK/Grand Master Yoda squads are stronger than Malak squads, just because the rest of the Republic roster is so much stronger than what the Sith can bring.

The one distinctive piece the Sith can bring in to this type of squad is Sidious Hologram - Force Renewal for everyone is strong, but otherwise it's very noticeable that Malak squads often revolve around fringe attackers like Jarael, Dash, and Boba. There are other neat options like Sith Lords, but nothing game breaking.

On the other hand Republic also have a bunch of other pieces that make them stronger than Sith - you can get an amazing movement breaker in R2 Astromech for 9 points, Captain Rex is a great shooter for 33 points, Jedi Weapon Masters are tough with GOWK's CE, and you have left field options like Jar Jar Binks that are strong as well.

Off the top of my head, Sith Sorcery and Sidious Hologram's force renewal for everyone are two faction-specific abilities that only the Sith had before the v-sets - so I guess they're what you build around in Sith. Tellingly though, out of 54 squads at the National Champs in 2010, noone ran Sith.

I always reference back to Masters of the Force era/before the v-sets - as that's where I started playing. I guess there was a point in SWM before that where Sith were more competitive - they only got 10 pieces in all of the 40 piece sets/related expansions. They got a few nice options like Sidiogram and the Sith Lord during that time, but compared to what the big factions got during that era, they were very neglected.

yeah, I completely agree with Urbanjedi. Auto damage is a huge advantage. There were a few tournaments, back in the day mind you, that I build specific auto damage squads because I knew it would take out the one thing I suck at: dice rolls.

Without thrawn, you could try: 1) auto damage with Palps on throne, and Nightsister Sith witches or other 'shockers'
2) a moff Nyna calixte squad with storm commandos. 3) Darth Vader imperial commander, a Felucian Stormtrooper officer and shock troopers for 34 defense missile troopers