We hijacked The Hutts Regional thread.

It's a valid conversation but deserved its own thread.

No, i don't think it moves it to Karrde although you will get some pretty fast moving fringe pieces you're looking at a +20 +8 dmg boost (Karrdes bonus and cunning from jabba). The peace brigade thugs seem to be the fringe equivalent to the raxus and snows but then they won't get charging fire so the end product is much less intense.

You lose activation control and possible accurate so it just makes a much more competitive fringe squad than a dominating Imperial squad.

Pretty sure it's an R7 and 2 Ugnaughts. It's Dr Daman's baby though.

For a tank squad that's 11 points well spent in many cases.

This build doesn't fit Ozzel/Pellaeon - I guess Dr Daman's decided that crazy movement (wall climbing Raxus, 2 Zygerrians, a repulsor sled, cannon shot from Flim), with solid attack bonuses (hence GARY, Piett, Needa) is the best way to go with Daala squads, and from the results he's had, there's little reason to doubt it. I guess you can find potential weaknesses in this specific build - you can outactivate it with no Ozzel, the +13 might struggle to break down big defenders (although with 15 Raxus at +13 for 40s, I'd still say advantage this build), and strafe/gallop has a chance (although the bigger strafers from Vehicles of War probably don't have the speed to keep up, and a Lancer would have to played very carefully against all the movement this Imperial squad has).

From the Hutt Regional Thread:

I had high hopes of dethroning Dave and prepared fairly well. I needed a 2pt win to be in contention for a Top4 spot but a 3-1 or 3-0 win would see me though easily. After considering several options, I decided against Strafe (too fragile! if Dave ran Daala) and went with Naboo Troopers. Dave sat down and revealed... *da-daaa!* Daala with 15 Raxus Primes. I hadn't necessarily picked his squad, but I did know he'd go with something shooty.

I won map roll and chose Rhen Var. Dave declined to setup first and I chose the buildings end. He then setup to me. First round was positioning - my 23 activations to his 28 - but I made a couple of mistakes... I had 2 pilots which I pushed out too far and I also left R2 exposed. Dave was, with 2 Zygerians and Charging Fire, able to get a Raxus all the way into my side on Round 1 and get R2. Amazing. He also found a place to sneak his Repulsor Sled down the side of the map. He thought it was a risk, but it wasn't much of one as, winning intiative for Round 2, I couldn't get a piece to him to kill it with out having to roll 2 17s to do so. I completely forgot Speed 12 and Charging Fire and Dave, on the second activation of Round 2, charged into my commanders and killed Mon Mothma. Game.

Now, this is not a good example of the extremeness of Daala. Yes, she was able to allow Dave to setup and execute an amazing move... but it is more an example of me forgetting some abilities and how to lock doors. What I am concerned about, however, is how we in the Hutt have been warped by this piece. Mike Smuggler (who came to watch the game with Aaron/Sharron) asked me almost straight away: "Daala or Daala counter?" It has affected us in the Hutt so much that we're only running one of the two. Dave, after his lightning fast victory, commented that 'Daala is a negative play experience for the opponent and that it is also a negative play experience for the player running her' and there was then some light talk about how we may have to consider what we do with her at the Nationals.

Anyhoo - hats off to Dave. Well played and good luck in the knockouts!

(Kerry Logan Just want to say - it took me longer to write that than it did to lose.)

For a while not too long ago, tank squads (with low activations) were doing well (Mace/GOWK, Zannah/Caedus, etc), and the meta adjusted to accommodate them, since the high-activation squads generally didn't have what it took to crack the armor of the tanks. But now tanks are dropping in effectiveness again, which allows the high-act squads to flourish again.

This matter is only further compounded now that the new gatekeeper (Daala) brings squads of 20+ activations to the table.

I realize that this probably isn't everyone's primary concern, but if Daala squads dominate at 200 points, I'm worried about what they'll do at 250, or even 300, where they can fit in everything, plus some.

I don't think daves raxus prime squad is the most formidable Daala squad out there. But it has never lost. It hasn't even come close to losing. Granted it hasn't played a lancer, but that's only 1 squad, that it MAY struggle with. It's demolished anything in its path. I've played it about 6 times, plus watched it destroy Daala, and naboos. I severely dislike this piece, I feel like it will destroy the meta we had before her. And also, for me and possibly others , it has made A LOT of Vset 7 almost boring , because all of the cool characters (eg Bane) will get demolished in a game against Daala.

In my opinion, a decision should be made on Daala before the regional season starts here in the States. The game is already at a all time low. Having a season full of NPE's isn't something the game can take right now. Players will drop like flies.