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Illusion and Stacking Options
FlyingArrow
Posted: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 8:49:54 AM
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Can you use Illusion twice on the same attack or does that violate the stacking rule?
swinefeld
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FlyingArrow wrote:
Can you use Illusion twice on the same attack or does that violate the stacking rule?


How could it trigger on the same attack twice?
FlyingArrow
Posted: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 9:06:08 AM
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If the opponent makes their save roll, can you use it again (assuming you have Master of the Force 2)?
swinefeld
Posted: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 9:28:55 AM
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FlyingArrow wrote:
If the opponent makes their save roll, can you use it again (assuming you have Master of the Force 2)?


No, 'when hit' only happens once in the effects chain, so it's pretty much like LS Block. You can reroll a save, but not Block the same attack twice. In this case, it isn't even your save.
swinefeld
Posted: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 10:25:34 AM
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From the FAQ:

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Q: Can a character with the ability to spend Force points more than once use this ability more than once on the same attack if the attacker makes the first save?

A: No.

DarkDracul
Posted: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 10:27:09 AM
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swinefeld wrote:
FlyingArrow wrote:
If the opponent makes their save roll, can you use it again (assuming you have Master of the Force 2)?


No, 'when hit' only happens once in the effects chain, so it's pretty much like LS Block. You can reroll a save, but not Block the same attack twice. In this case, it isn't even your save.


Good to know! That Darth Caedus was like a God among men!
FlyingArrow
Posted: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 11:24:15 AM
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Thanks.

Follow-up question: could you use Illusion and then Master Illusion on the same attack?
UrbanShmi
Posted: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 11:29:30 AM
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As far as I'm aware, the precedent with the Master modifier is that it does stack with the regular ability (see Shaper and Master Shaper), so I would think the answer would be yes.
Deaths_Baine
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FlyingArrow wrote:
Thanks.

Follow-up question: could you use Illusion and then Master Illusion on the same attack?



I would say so, but i believe you would have to state that before the first save roll. just like with bodyguard and any damage negating abilities.
swinefeld
Posted: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 1:54:42 PM
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UrbanShmi wrote:
As far as I'm aware, the precedent with the Master modifier is that it does stack with the regular ability (see Shaper and Master Shaper), so I would think the answer would be yes.


Agreed.

Deaths_Baine wrote:
FlyingArrow wrote:
Thanks.

Follow-up question: could you use Illusion and then Master Illusion on the same attack?



I would say so, but i believe you would have to state that before the first save roll. just like with bodyguard and any damage negating abilities.


Yes, you would have to declare one or both immediately after the attack hits, per the glossary definitions.
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