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TheHutts
Posted: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 4:33:24 PM
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Just got a weird bloomail from a Bothan, saying "had to hurry. there coming after me".

Can you make any sense of it? https://vimeo.com/123761894
pegolego
Posted: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 6:09:00 PM
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He must have been in a hurry; this particular bothan's English leaves something to be desired Wink

EDIT: Though, after watching the video, may I say that this is an absolutely insane[ly kewl!] way of doing the old Bothan Transmission?!?! ThumpUp

It's like spies!
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pegolego wrote:
He must have been in a hurry; this particular bothan's English leaves something to be desired Wink

EDIT: Though, after watching the video, may I say that this is an absolutely insane[ly kewl!] way of doing the old Bothan Transmission?!?! ThumpUp

It's like spies!


A very cool way to do it. But not my style, my eyes are not built for that style of in and out blurriness. I love the originality and the idea as it looks cool but I will not be able to help. LOL, I couldn't help even if my eyes could handle it.
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Very cool.
TimmerB123
Posted: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 8:36:55 AM
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Pausing it helps. Wink
UrbanShmi
Posted: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 8:59:10 AM
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TimmerB123 wrote:
Pausing it helps. Wink


At some point, someone should probably pause it and post the text in this thread for reference. There are a couple of clear seconds in there from which some enterprising lost soul should be able to isolate the needed info.
General_Grievous
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8538268(1728.248.248.+,):(,(++.):+8284::)3(
ONTOFORTTOCKISDERATDLTRSNPBAETIASCELENEEILETKE
AEAADNDADDELIATTEDIDAEBSSETEATHFNNEHAMDCIDAYIDIRGEDDOAD
CNLHTUITSETFINHROEESEDDCCTAASSTAEIMBTNNFCASTNEATREEAICCOAD

Ok that is all I can do for now, brain is fried and pretty sure that isn't 100% correct either. Seems to be around 2 seconds is the best time to pause
kobayashimaru
Posted: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 7:09:08 PM
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Very funny? exciting? different? way to reveal new stats. BlooMilk

is this a new card, or an existing card...

I'll take whatever colored pill it is to jump down this cryptographic rabithole and play anagrams/ "Jeopardy" BigGrin

I paused at 0:03, and took a screenshot. There may be several different 'screens' of stats in the 0:10s vid... that would be sadistic heh.
There are 8 lines of text and 1 line of numbers/other characters. the zeroes appear to be in the same font as o's, and are hidden in with the 8 lines of text.

The poster has used a slice method to jumble the text of the card, the slice text string method might have been manual or using some pseudo-random method. I suspect that extra code was put in, and that some of this text was left un-encoded, just to be extra tricky BigGrin
but its unknown if they spelt "Special Abilities" or the attributes, Faction descriptor, in full.

Using combinatorial analysis and a system of elimination, we can eliminate characters based on faction, the attributes (also unknown if spelt in full) and do combinatorics for the stats on the rest.
There are only 15ish factions.
As stats such as HP and DMG must be in round numbers to the nearest 0, with 0 not being double 0, then theres some fun... Some of the 'o's are in fact 0 or zeroes, and the poster hasn't done us cryptologists any favors by using a font that doesn't distinguish. BigGrin Some of the 8's might be 0s, if the font renders 0 with a line through it.

they also havent helped by leaving things capitalised, such as for the character's names, beginning of abilities, etc.

though, if the numbers are pairs, inclusive of cost, there's almost enough there for 2 characters.
Stats such as ATK or DEF must fall within limits bounds - they are unlikely to exceed 40 for either value.
Similarly, DMG is rarely above 60, and HPs are rarely above 150HPs...

So, in a single card,
4 x 2-digit numbers (each of base stats), + a 2 or 3 digit number for points cost + "X" x 1 or 2 digit numbers for SA's and Force Powers (including Force Renewal).
= 8+2/3+[3-7 x 1 to 2 digit numbers]
~13 to 25 numbers avg per individual stat card.

If 13 is taken as a loose lower limit, then we could be looking at 2 stat cards here if some of the "o"s are ^0^ (zeroes).
else, assuming 4 of the *o*s are "0"s, then we have 29 numerical numbers for a single stat card.

Lets quantify the text segment: look at the ratios of letters in the text - theres a lot of consonants.
There are also very few P's in the letters of the text (7 p's), suggesting the piece/s is likely not a force user or a Separatist/Imperial. Once words like "Points", "Special Abilities" and "Force Powers" are taken out, there are fewer p's left.
There are conversely a lot of D's, S's and R's... suggesting words and abilities with consonant pairs with those letters...


Fringe,
[character name upto ~20 characters, ~8 vowels unlikely to contain P's or Q's] NB <---- the parenthesis are my own 'placeholders', and aren't counted from the 8 lines of characters.
cost 38pts or 88pts,
NB assuming this is 1 character: we could do combinatorics/permutation after we've removed the other likely HP, DMG, ATK values.

HitPoints 80 max to 10 lowest (there are no 9's, you'll note).
Defense 21
Attack +17
Damage 20 [technically it could be 10-30, but NOT 90 as there are no 9s heh]

Special Abilities
Unique NB: Mightnt be enough Q's to support this, there appears to be only 2 Qs.
Rapport
Stealth
Avoid Defeat?
SelfDestruct
Quick Reactions +6 (if this, then no other ability +6, AND mightn't be enough Q's in text for this)
Greater Mobile Attack
Splash - limited P's mean this mightn't be it.
Rigid?

Force Powers
Force Renewal
Lightsaber Defense

Commander Effect
Followers within 6 squares gain the following effect: Avoid Defeat?



that's all I've got at the moment -
if it turns out this is 2 statcards, I reserve the right to be absolutely "so wrong it is not even wrong" BigGrin
and take nothing for given, its just some idle speculation and breaking this daunting task down into simpler bits and using the Kipling method to put some limits on stuff and back-of-the-envelope.
there are 100 odd cards this could be hehe, so even with permutations, its going to be a tough one. BigGrin
UrbanShmi
Posted: Thursday, April 2, 2015 3:11:50 AM
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kobayashimaru wrote:
Very funny? exciting? different? way to reveal new stats. BlooMilk

is this a new card, or an existing card...

I'll take whatever colored pill it is to jump down this cryptographic rabithole and play anagrams/ "Jeopardy" BigGrin

I paused at 0:03, and took a screenshot. There may be several different 'screens' of stats in the 0:10s vid... that would be sadistic heh.
There are 8 lines of text and 1 line of numbers/other characters. the zeroes appear to be in the same font as o's, and are hidden in with the 8 lines of text.

The poster has used a slice method to jumble the text of the card, the slice text string method might have been manual or using some pseudo-random method. I suspect that extra code was put in, and that some of this text was left un-encoded, just to be extra tricky BigGrin
but its unknown if they spelt "Special Abilities" or the attributes, Faction descriptor, in full.

Using combinatorial analysis and a system of elimination, we can eliminate characters based on faction, the attributes (also unknown if spelt in full) and do combinatorics for the stats on the rest.
There are only 15ish factions.
As stats such as HP and DMG must be in round numbers to the nearest 0, with 0 not being double 0, then theres some fun... Some of the 'o's are in fact 0 or zeroes, and the poster hasn't done us cryptologists any favors by using a font that doesn't distinguish. BigGrin Some of the 8's might be 0s, if the font renders 0 with a line through it.

they also havent helped by leaving things capitalised, such as for the character's names, beginning of abilities, etc.

though, if the numbers are pairs, inclusive of cost, there's almost enough there for 2 characters.
Stats such as ATK or DEF must fall within limits bounds - they are unlikely to exceed 40 for either value.
Similarly, DMG is rarely above 60, and HPs are rarely above 150HPs...

So, in a single card,
4 x 2-digit numbers (each of base stats), + a 2 or 3 digit number for points cost + "X" x 1 or 2 digit numbers for SA's and Force Powers (including Force Renewal).
= 8+2/3+[3-7 x 1 to 2 digit numbers]
~13 to 25 numbers avg per individual stat card.

If 13 is taken as a loose lower limit, then we could be looking at 2 stat cards here if some of the "o"s are ^0^ (zeroes).
else, assuming 4 of the *o*s are "0"s, then we have 29 numerical numbers for a single stat card.

Lets quantify the text segment: look at the ratios of letters in the text - theres a lot of consonants.
There are also very few P's in the letters of the text (7 p's), suggesting the piece/s is likely not a force user or a Separatist/Imperial. Once words like "Points", "Special Abilities" and "Force Powers" are taken out, there are fewer p's left.
There are conversely a lot of D's, S's and R's... suggesting words and abilities with consonant pairs with those letters...


Fringe,
[character name upto ~20 characters, ~8 vowels unlikely to contain P's or Q's] NB <---- the parenthesis are my own 'placeholders', and aren't counted from the 8 lines of characters.
cost 38pts or 88pts,
NB assuming this is 1 character: we could do combinatorics/permutation after we've removed the other likely HP, DMG, ATK values.

HitPoints 80 max to 10 lowest (there are no 9's, you'll note).
Defense 21
Attack +17
Damage 20 [technically it could be 10-30, but NOT 90 as there are no 9s heh]

Special Abilities
Unique NB: Mightnt be enough Q's to support this, there appears to be only 2 Qs.
Rapport
Stealth
Avoid Defeat?
SelfDestruct
Quick Reactions +6 (if this, then no other ability +6, AND mightn't be enough Q's in text for this)
Greater Mobile Attack
Splash - limited P's mean this mightn't be it.
Rigid?

Force Powers
Force Renewal
Lightsaber Defense

Commander Effect
Followers within 6 squares gain the following effect: Avoid Defeat?



that's all I've got at the moment -
if it turns out this is 2 statcards, I reserve the right to be absolutely "so wrong it is not even wrong" BigGrin
and take nothing for given, its just some idle speculation and breaking this daunting task down into simpler bits and using the Kipling method to put some limits on stuff and back-of-the-envelope.
there are 100 odd cards this could be hehe, so even with permutations, its going to be a tough one. BigGrin


Good start! Bolded above I can confirm as being on the card, although maybe not in the positions you have them.

Hit Points, Defense, Attack, and Damage should be abbreviated as on the cards (although you do have one of those values correct, as well).

Also, there might be a clue or two in my first post on this thread.
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Hit points, attack, etc. are NOT abbreviated on the card, but usually are in the stat block used to make the card.

Good luck determining if it used Atk, ATK, ATT, etc....

I don't know what this is, so I can't help in that regard.
UrbanShmi
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swinefeld wrote:
Hit points, attack, etc. are NOT abbreviated on the card, but usually are in the stat block used to make the card.

Good luck determining if it used Atk, ATK, ATT, etc....

I don't know what this is, so I can't help in that regard.


I stand corrected re the abbreviations. I will have to ask the Bothan to confirm the text he used. I DO know what this is, so I can confirm everything else.
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swinefeld wrote:
Hit points, attack, etc. are NOT abbreviated on the card, .


ThumbsUp
leshippy
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kobayashimaru wrote:
V

Fringe,
[character name upto ~20 characters, ~8 vowels unlikely to contain P's or Q's] NB <---- the parenthesis are my own 'placeholders', and aren't counted from the 8 lines of characters.
cost 38pts or 88pts,
NB assuming this is 1 character: we could do combinatorics/permutation after we've removed the other likely HP, DMG, ATK values.

HitPoints 80 max to 10 lowest (there are no 9's, you'll note).
Defense 21
Attack +17
Damage 20 [technically it could be 10-30, but NOT 90 as there are no 9s heh]

Special Abilities
Unique NB: Mightnt be enough Q's to support this, there appears to be only 2 Qs.
Rapport
Stealth
Avoid Defeat?
SelfDestruct
Quick Reactions +6 (if this, then no other ability +6, AND mightn't be enough Q's in text for this)
Greater Mobile Attack
Splash - limited P's mean this mightn't be it.
Rigid?

Force Powers
Force Renewal
Lightsaber Defense

Commander Effect
Followers within 6 squares gain the following effect: Avoid Defeat?



that's all I've got at the moment -
if it turns out this is 2 statcards, I reserve the right to be absolutely "so wrong it is not even wrong" BigGrin
and take nothing for given, its just some idle speculation and breaking this daunting task down into simpler bits and using the Kipling method to put some limits on stuff and back-of-the-envelope.
there are 100 odd cards this could be hehe, so even with permutations, its going to be a tough one. BigGrin
leshippy
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blasted Grammar nazis
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leshippy wrote:
blasted Grammar nazis

Sorry man. I still haven't gotten over not being able to work on these. Wink
Also, best BT delivery I've ever seen. ThumpUp
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neat! This is fun, and there's been a few PMs/BMs about this, so I think the community is liking that format.
so, thats 40 characters down, 180 odd to go...

There goes my theory of this piece being an awesome fringe piece. That's one faction down, only 8 others to go.
New Republic...

With Damage confirmed as 20, this helps to narrow down the other values.
As people haven't outright confirmed if we're looking at 1 to 2 separate stat cards, or if there are more than one 'screen' of characters in the 10second video... we ought to keep that line of inquiry open.

Especially given that 'unique' wasn't a special ability. (nb, awesome that its a new commander force user). We're probably looking at a force user of some sort... perhaps a JJTrek or NJO era character?

If the cost doesn't end in an 8 or contain a 2 as the first value... we could be looking at a 3 digit points cost, or ends in a:
2,3,4,5,6,7.
I'm guessing the cost is 57 points...

As some have hinted, the Hit Points might be a 3 digit value... though they must end in a '0'
I'm guessing 60 hit points



At this point, having made a guess and being 'so wrong, I'm not even wrong" (gotta like the old Asimov), Im prepared to call 'uncle' and 'my give up' (to quote Jar Jar). BigGrin
C'mon, other forum users... take a guess at it.
This is fun BlooMilk
UrbanShmi
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There's a correct guess in there, but I don't want to confirm in that format. Care to take another stab at the full stat block?

P.S.
If you look carefully, there's something confirmed by me and not by Les--it's a word that appears on the card, but NOT under the heading it was guessed under. Might be a hint there...
leshippy
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kobayashimaru wrote:
neat! This is fun, and there's been a few PMs/BMs about this, so I think the community is liking that format.
so, thats 40 characters down, 180 odd to go...

There goes my theory of this piece being an awesome fringe piece. That's one faction down, only 8 others to go.
New Republic...

With Damage confirmed as 20, this helps to narrow down the other values.
As people haven't outright confirmed if we're looking at 1 to 2 separate stat cards, or if there are more than one 'screen' of characters in the 10second video... we ought to keep that line of inquiry open.

Especially given that 'unique' wasn't a special ability. (nb, awesome that its a new commander force user). We're probably looking at a force user of some sort... perhaps a JJTrek or NJO era character?

If the cost doesn't end in an 8 or contain a 2 as the first value... we could be looking at a 3 digit points cost, or ends in a:
2,3,4,5,6,7.
I'm guessing the cost is 57 points...

As some have hinted, the Hit Points might be a 3 digit value... though they must end in a '0'
I'm guessing 60 hit points



At this point, having made a guess and being 'so wrong, I'm not even wrong" (gotta like the old Asimov), Im prepared to call 'uncle' and 'my give up' (to quote Jar Jar). BigGrin
C'mon, other forum users... take a guess at it.
This is fun BlooMilk
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@leshippy,
thanks for the subtle bold hint,
1 stat card it is folks... apologies for any misdirection on my part...

@all
Still working on it, there's 16000 combos or so I'm looking at...
We know its NOT FRINGE,
NOT UNIQUE - yet has a commander effect.
there are only 8 other combos for both the points cost and for each of the other stat blocks - including that hint the HealthPoints/HitPoints might be 3 digits, and the cost might be 3 digits...

EDIT:
is the 'code' from the vimeo vid at timereference 0:03s:17ms 'accurate'?
I can't get a decent screenshot, but thats the screen I'm working from on the vimeo vid itself BigGrin
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General_Grievous wrote:
8538268(1728.248.248.+,):(,(++.):+8284::)3(
ONTOFORTTOCKISDERATDLTRSNPBAETIASCELENEEILETKE
AEAADNDADDELIATTEDIDAEBSSETEATHFNNEHAMDCIDAYIDIRGEDDOAD
CNLHTUITSETFINHROEESEDDCCTAASSTAEIMBTNNFCASTNEATREEAICCOAD

Ok that is all I can do for now, brain is fried and pretty sure that isn't 100% correct either. Seems to be around 2 seconds is the best time to pause


I ran this by the Bothan and they say the code above is not 100% accurate.
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