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CorranHornsux123
Posted: Monday, August 10, 2015 9:13:37 AM
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Starting a Thread where Casual players can talk about and make changes to the V-set cards and WOTC cards they feel are appropriate.

Heres one everyone wants to see.



kobayashimaru
Posted: Monday, August 10, 2015 9:42:21 AM
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mission accomplished, + BlooMilk
BigGrin

It's going to happen, along with maybe a SA where all Mousies on squad count as 1 activation,
or a cap on how many can be brought it etc
poppins88
Posted: Monday, August 10, 2015 9:55:50 AM
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Sweet card! I like the thread idea as well.
CorranHornsux123
Posted: Monday, August 10, 2015 10:26:57 AM
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poppins88 wrote:
Sweet card! I like the thread idea as well.


thanks Poppins

Quote:
mission accomplished, + BlooMilk
BigGrin

It's going to happen, along with maybe a SA where all Mousies on squad count as 1 activation,
or a cap on how many can be brought it etc


for got that 1 activation thing whoops
Darth_Reignir
Posted: Monday, August 10, 2015 10:38:38 AM
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If casual players are going to unite, we're just going to have to go else where. I don't think the tournament players are concerned with fixing a large and equally important version of the game.
thereisnotry
Posted: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:15:32 PM
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CorranHornsux123 wrote:
Starting a Thread where Casual players can talk about and make changes to the V-set cards and WOTC cards they feel are appropriate.

Heres one everyone wants to see.



Nice idea! FWIW, I (as a member of the Balance Team) have copied this card and posted it in our Mouse Droid discussion topic. I'm only one person so I can't and won't promise anything...but believe it or not, we are listening. And very active.
atmsalad
Posted: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:06:13 PM
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Darth_Reignir wrote:
If casual players are going to unite, we're just going to have to go else where. I don't think the tournament players are concerned with fixing a large and equally important version of the game.

This statement is false, you have no idea how false it is.
Warev Ririp
Posted: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:07:05 PM
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I'm fine with being casual, but as I am stationed in Korea, I don't have much of a choice.
poppins88
Posted: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:28:17 PM
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atmsalad wrote:
Darth_Reignir wrote:
If casual players are going to unite, we're just going to have to go else where. I don't think the tournament players are concerned with fixing a large and equally important version of the game.

This statement is false, you have no idea how false it is.


Not trying to pick a fight or anything, I promise, but what evidence/argument do you have for this atmsalad?
Deaths_Baine
Posted: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:30:00 PM
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poppins88 wrote:
atmsalad wrote:
Darth_Reignir wrote:
If casual players are going to unite, we're just going to have to go else where. I don't think the tournament players are concerned with fixing a large and equally important version of the game.

This statement is false, you have no idea how false it is.


Not trying to pick a fight or anything, I promise, but what evidence/argument do you have for this?



because the balance team said they are working on it. thereisnotry actually said he copied the mouse droid card that was created and sent it to the balance team, and although I may not always agree with thereisnotry I am not aware of him being a liar, or misleading anyone, so I take him at his word on this.
poppins88
Posted: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:31:55 PM
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Deaths_Baine wrote:
poppins88 wrote:
atmsalad wrote:
Darth_Reignir wrote:
If casual players are going to unite, we're just going to have to go else where. I don't think the tournament players are concerned with fixing a large and equally important version of the game.

This statement is false, you have no idea how false it is.


Not trying to pick a fight or anything, I promise, but what evidence/argument do you have for this?



because the balance team said they are working on it. thereisnotry actually said he copied the mouse droid card that was created and sent it to the balance team, and although I may not always agree with thereisnotry I am not aware of him being a liar, or misleading anyone, so I take him at his word on this.


Fair enough, I totally missed his post. Its good to know there is some push towards fixing this.
Deaths_Baine
Posted: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:35:51 PM
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let me add a disclaimer here: I am not on the balance team and have no idea what is being discussed and have no real proof that any changes will be made, But I do believe that he did what he said, and that they are at the very least discussing possible changes.
TheHutts
Posted: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:37:02 PM
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Yup, the Mouse card was posted in the balance team - I've actually appreciated people's ideas about the Mouse Droid issue as I personally think it's the most difficult of the 8-10 issues that we currently have on the table.

I'd definitely be interested in seeing playtest results with 3 point Mouse Droids and the various ideas that have been suggested - not blocking movement, not providing cover, not counting as the nearest target unless adjacent.
jak
Posted: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:37:34 PM
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as long as the discussion is secret,and far from our ignorant eyes, we have no idea what's going on.
the powers that be will decide what's best for us.

I really don't give a sh!t anymore.
tired of waiting for changes that should have happened months ago.
Deaths_Baine
Posted: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:38:37 PM
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TheHutts wrote:
Yup, the Mouse card was posted in the balance team - I've actually appreciated people's ideas about the Mouse Droid as I personally think it's the most difficult of the 8-10 issues that we currently have on the table.

I'd definitely be interested in seeing playtest results with 3 point Mice and the various ideas that have been suggested - not blocking movement, not providing cover, not counting as the nearest target unless adjacent.



well, it may not be exactly the same, but the not blocking movement, and not providing cover is wonderful in legends version of things. it really does help the mouse droid be used for its original purpose, relaying orders.
jak
Posted: Monday, August 10, 2015 2:40:11 PM
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TheHutts wrote:
Yup, the Mouse card was posted in the balance team - I've actually appreciated people's ideas about the Mouse Droid issue as I personally think it's the most difficult of the 8-10 issues that we currently have on the table.

I'd definitely be interested in seeing playtest results with 3 point Mouse Droids and the various ideas that have been suggested - not blocking movement, not providing cover, not counting as the nearest target unless adjacent.


R U serious?
just make the change on that f-ing droid that the majority wants!

atmsalad
Posted: Monday, August 10, 2015 4:03:44 PM
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jak wrote:
R U serious?
just make the change on that f-ing droid that the majority wants!

I think to not conduct play tests for this particular change would be foolish. The tough choice is the "doesn't count as the closest target" option. Legends did not adopt that part in their rules changes for a reason. If the balance team does look at that option it will definitely need play testing. Unfortunately these changes can't simply be mandated through a majority vote.
Darth_Reignir
Posted: Monday, August 10, 2015 4:30:41 PM
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atmsalad wrote:
Darth_Reignir wrote:
If casual players are going to unite, we're just going to have to go else where. I don't think the tournament players are concerned with fixing a large and equally important version of the game.

This statement is false, you have no idea how false it is.


You're right, I don't. This community-driven project is so secretive.
countrydude82487
Posted: Monday, August 10, 2015 6:18:44 PM
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Darth_Reignir wrote:
atmsalad wrote:
Darth_Reignir wrote:
If casual players are going to unite, we're just going to have to go else where. I don't think the tournament players are concerned with fixing a large and equally important version of the game.

This statement is false, you have no idea how false it is.


You're right, I don't. This community-driven project is so secretive.



To be fair, i understand the reason for some of the Secrecy. IF there wasn't some of the Locked threads and groups we would have everyone and their mother Chiming in on a conversation, and that would dilute what is going on. When you are trying to have a conversation with the balance team about how to fix this piece or that and every person keeps chiming in about their own NPE it kind of gets frustrating. I am not saying that everything should be done behind the scenes i am just giving my point of view on the problem.
EmporerDragon
Posted: Monday, August 10, 2015 7:26:42 PM
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countrydude82487 wrote:
IF there wasn't some of the Locked threads and groups we would have everyone and their mother Chiming in on a conversation, and that would dilute what is going on. When you are trying to have a conversation with the balance team about how to fix this piece or that and every person keeps chiming in about their own NPE it kind of gets frustrating. I am not saying that everything should be done behind the scenes i am just giving my point of view on the problem.


Yeah, too many discussions by too many people makes it hard to work. I remember back when the V-set precursors, The Lost Twenty, were almost scrapped when a mod came in and merged every single thread about them into one big mess.
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