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CorranHornsux123
Posted: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 10:18:40 AM
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Ok so the Mondo Conscriptors Ability reads Enemy Conscription (Whenever a living enemy within 6 squares of this character would be defeated, it instead joins your squad for the rest of the skirmish and you remove 20 damage from it; its faction becomes Mandalorian. The enemy negates this ability with a save of 16 if non-Unique; save 11 if Unique.)

So is this like Avoid Defeat with +10 hp and just one save or do you add 20HP onto what they had when they died? so if boba fett shot a guy for 40 and all he had left was 40 does he join my squad for 60 or 20?(assuming hes failed the save)

Also how does this work on Lord Kaan with thought bomb and characters with Self destruct? does the SD or Thought bomb still go off if they joined my team?
FlyingArrow
Posted: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 10:25:46 AM
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Like Avoid Defeat with 20hp. If they join your team, they are not defeated so self-destruct and thought bomb don't go off.
Darth_Reignir
Posted: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 11:43:51 AM
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The wording is pretty clear, Whenever a living enemy...would be defeated, it instead joins your squad.... and you remove 20 damage from it.

In order for an enemy to be defeated, it has to reach 0 HP. It doesn't mean that if you shoot a piece that has 40 HP left for 40 damage, that it returns at 60, because at that point, it had never been defeated.
FlyingArrow
Posted: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 11:57:21 AM
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Bookmark this (it's in the sticky at the top of this forum if you don't want to bookmark it):
http://www.bloomilk.com/Forums/default.aspx?g=posts&t=10805

Damage is applied and "when defeated" effects both trigger in step 12. But, yes, the damage is applied first. Then resolve Enemy Conscription, which can prevent defeat. Just a slight technical point to what Darth_Reignir said. The conscripted character never is defeated. It would have been (and had its hit points briefly down to 0), but Enemy Conscription prevents it. I don't think it caused any confusion, but just in case.
Prestige Worldwide
Posted: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 1:36:20 PM
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So if a piece is converted and then killed, who gets the points, the player who converted the piece, or the original owner of the piece who kills it?
FlyingArrow
Posted: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 1:42:48 PM
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Prestige Worldwide wrote:
So if a piece is converted and then killed, who gets the points, the player who converted the piece, or the original owner of the piece who kills it?


You get points for what you defeat, so the original owner gets the points. That's why you probably won't see this on competitive tables in standard format. If you kill their 50 point guy you might get him for one turn, but it's an easy kill for them and a100 point swing in the game. Could be really strong in tile wars though. That's a kill em all format.
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