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FlyingArrow
Posted: Monday, August 17, 2015 8:51:32 PM
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Does Affinity *change* a character's faction or *give* a character a second faction?

When Vergere's Affinity allows her into a New Republic squad is she still considered a "Yuuzhan Vong character"?

How about a character with Yuuzhan Vong in the name, like "Yuuzhan Vong Ossus Guardian"? Does that count as a "Yuuzhan Vong character" when using Affinity to New Republic?
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Posted: Monday, August 17, 2015 9:39:53 PM
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FlyingArrow wrote:
Does Affinity *change* a character's faction or *give* a character a second faction?


It is changed.

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When Vergere's Affinity allows her into a New Republic squad is she still considered a "Yuuzhan Vong character"?


No, unless Nei Rin (Vong Heritage SA) is also in the squad

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How about a character with Yuuzhan Vong in the name, like "Yuuzhan Vong Ossus Guardian"? Does that count as a "Yuuzhan Vong character" when using Affinity to New Republic?


See Nei Rin (Vong Heritage)


Takeaway - Affinity always changes the character's faction, unless prevented by some other ability.
urbanjedi
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Affinity does change faction.

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FlyingArrow
Posted: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 6:49:23 AM
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That's what I thought... Borsk's Rival doesn't do a whole lot, then. Other than Nei Rin, it's hard to get Vong into a NR squad. I guess it could also come into play in alternate formats where there are no faction restrictions.

Oh - and there's another squadbuilder issue. Vergere can't get into a squad with Borsk.
swinefeld
Posted: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:32:03 AM
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FlyingArrow wrote:
That's what I thought... Borsk's Rival doesn't do a whole lot, then. Other than Nei Rin, it's hard to get Vong into a NR squad. I guess it could also come into play in alternate formats where there are no faction restrictions.

Oh - and there's another squadbuilder issue. Vergere can't get into a squad with Borsk.


Affinity changes faction when the character is added to the squad, not before.

So it seems to me that his Rival does exactly what it is supposed to - prevents Vong pieces from being in a squad with him, and vice-versa. If you build the squad with Vong pieces in it first, then Borsk can't be added.
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Posted: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:39:57 AM
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Sorry... does that mean Borsk and Vergere can be in a squad together or not - meaning the base squad?

What about Reinforcements or Reserves?
Can you add Vergere to an NR squad that already has Borsk?
Can you add Borsk to an NR squad that already has Vergere?

(And assuming no Nei Rin, of course.)
swinefeld
Posted: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:42:22 AM
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Rival trumps Affinity. There is no case where any Vong pieces (or Collaborators) and Borsk can coexist in a squad.

Mutual exclusion. Whichever is there first rules out adding the other.


edit: Sorry, I see that I answered those specific questions above outside the context of the thread.
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Posted: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:47:59 AM
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Thanks.

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Can you add Borsk to an NR squad that already has Vergere?


This one doesn't make sense to me, though. If Vergere is already in the squad then she is a New Republic piece - no longer Yuuzhan Vong. Does not count as a "Yuuzhan Vong character" (the wording in Borsk's Rival). So why couldn't Borsk be added? (Aside from the fact that there is no NR Reserves or Reinforcements that could bring him in.)
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Posted: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:54:52 AM
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FlyingArrow wrote:
Thanks.

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Can you add Borsk to an NR squad that already has Vergere?


This one doesn't make sense to me, though. If Vergere is already in the squad then she is a New Republic piece - no longer Yuuzhan Vong. Does not count as a "Yuuzhan Vong character" (the wording in Borsk's Rival). So why couldn't Borsk be added? (Aside from the fact that there is no NR Reserves or Reinforcements that could bring him in.)


I get where you are coming from. I believe that goes against intent, but there is the appearance of a loophole, so I will look into that further.
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