Ok just saw the new film. Again this thread will contain spoilers, you have been warned so hard luck if you read something you don't want to know



New characters get a big thumbs up from me, 10/10

New characters were very good. The new Sith lord was a pale reflection of Darth Vader but that was the point for the character in this film but fully expect him to be a lot darker in the next film. Rey, Finn and the rest of the new characters were all welcome additions to the star wars universe. It was also a joy to see Han and Co back. Look forward to the miniature version of these in new Vsets down the road.

The film does leave a few questions unanswered but at least 1 you can guess. Rey? this is one question not answered in the film as in who she is or who her parents are. However she is going to be Han & Leia's second child or Luke's child. Not really any other possibilities left. Second unanswered question is who, and where did the first order new supreme leader come from. Going by the look of the character he seems older than Luke, Han and Liea so would have been around during Pap's time A clone Maybe? who knows this is the big unanswered question of the film.Proberbly the only intrging part of the film. Oh and Luke blink and you will miss him, yea as the second name in the film after Harrison Ford you would expect him to be in it more. Think Anna Paquin's screen time in X-Men Days of Future past



Kylo Ren is the child of one of the original characters and kills at least 1 of the original characters as well. Don't want to say who at this point.

Special effects were superb throughout the film 10/10 on that score.
Far better than the 3 prequels. Go's to show CGI effects still need to go a long way to beat sets hand made for this type of film. Sure still CGI in it but over all seamlessly put together.

The Plot this is where the film fails big time. Sorry but this was A New Hope all over again. From the very beginning plans hidden in side a droid. Must get back to rebels, and call it what you like it's another F****** death Star, OK it's bigger and can destroy more than one planet at a time but it's a Death Star in all but name. Rescue a character from bad guys and kill of a character in pretty much the same way as Ben died in the first film. The film as no originality at all. It is still watchable as a star wars film but don't expect to see something you have not already seen in A New Hope, yea that's right nothing new that was not in that one film. Thankfully the cast are good and look forward to more adventures from them. but for plot can only and think this is being generous at that, can only give it 4/10 as said no originality at all.

End note, Still even with no originality still better than The Phantom Menace and thank god no Jar Jar like character's in it.

I'm desperately torn over this movie. From day 1 I have had one favorite character and to see other go down that way quite frankly breaks my heart. I totally agree it's a new hope all over again. New characters are great. Daisy Ridley is hot. But as I said this one broke my Star Wars heart.

Is the story of how Mas got the lightsaber already out in a book somewhere?

I still think Snoke is a silly name.

Overall I liked it.
Not as good as it could have been (with easy changes).
At this point, by itself, it's not worth scrapping the whole EU. Hopefully what is to come makes it worth it. And hopefully they incorporate more of the EU.

Complaints...
* they set it up for an amazing redemptive story of Han/Leia re-connecting. It didn't happen. Missed opportunity. Killing Han off later would have been a lot more powerful. There wasn't enough build-up to connect him to his son.
* they destroyed multiple planets and it evoked absolutely NOTHING. No idea what those planets were or why we as an audience should feel any pain over it other than the fact that a bunch of fictional characters died. First Order = Evil. Got it. Why did they blow up all the planets except the one BB-8 was on?
* As others have said, no imagination. Hide plans in droid. Chase droid. Orphan has Force powers they don't know about and uses them to win the day. Blow up a planet-killing weapon. We even have a Jedi master being a hermit as a set up for Episode 8.

simply a +1 here.

I'm really torn about this. Great Sci-Fi/Fantasy movie. Not a great addition to the Star Wars saga in my opinion. Knock the prequel's all you want but at least they had their own story and added some depth to the galaxy far, far away.

I loved seeing Han and co again and it was amazing to see the opening scroll once more on the big screen. Rey is awesome and I like Fin(n?) as well but as some others have said: In no way does this justify the nullification of the EU as cannon. If the OT characters were not in this you could very well say that this is just a reboot of episode 4.

You would think with the amount of creative minds involved with this project it would have been more original. I can understand the argument that because so many disliked the prequels that they should just play it safe but the redundancy in the plot was a little more than I could take.

That isn't to say that there weren't great things about this movie. In fact, there are a lot of awesome things about it but I think the EU and pre-Disney SW will likely be my own personal canon from here forward.

I think the Plagueis book was one of the last ones before the changeover.

Thanks I knew Plagueis himself was Cannon. Just wasn't sure about whether or not he was a Muun. What is this about the scars? Are those supposed to be from his supposed "death" via Palpatine?

I was pretty bummed about it, but not surprised. My guess was that he only agreed to do it if they killed his character off. At least we got to see him on screen one more time as Han. I have argued before that he is what really carried that OT to height that it reached anyway. Can you imagine if Kurt Russell would have been Han??? I'm pretty sure this website wouldn't even be here right now!