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CCC Reboot Week 4 - Abeloth Options
General_Grievous
Posted: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 12:56:12 PM
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Here are the new rules. Semi Ignore #1 since Disney hosed Cannon. but the premise is the same.

1. The character must be cannon and from the chosen faction. They can have affinity, but the character must start in the chosen faction. EDIT: Since Cannon is all screwed up, just a known character is fine.

2. You may update any existing versions you already have and/or create a new one. You may update/create several versions of the character but you must ultimately select 1 you wish to run with. (this must be done by the schedule below)

3. Place a hyperlink in this forum to make it easier to find your character. You can just post the stats or image here but if changes are needed it would be easier (and save space) if you just used a Hyperlink (If you don't know how to post Hyperlinks in a forum setting please ask and we will help you. It's not hard )

4. Voting works as follows, pick your three favorite customs based on accuracy to the character, design, balance or whatever you decide makes the best incarnation of the challenge character. First place receives 3 points, 2nd place receives 2 points, and 3rd place receives 1 point.

6. Too make things fair you must vote in order to win the contest. You must choose three characters entered in the contest and you may not rate or vote for your own character.

7. The character that is rated the highest in the Bloo Milk rating system will receive a bonus of 2 points. The winner will be decided by how many points they receive (for example: so-and-so(B) received 3 individual votes and received the bonus 2 for being the highest rated character for a total of 5 points)

8. you may not change or update the entered character AFTER the deadline (from Tuesday-Thursday you may get advice and change your character accordingly) Friday at midnight [US central -600] before any votes are cast is the deadline.

The schedule will be like this: Monday the winner of last weeks CCC will announce his choice for the character (including his faction), from Tuesday till Friday characters can be created/updated but on Friday you must have picked one character to submit. Then voting will be held on Saturday, Sunday and Monday until noon [US central -600]. Monday night the winner will be announced and the next character picked.
General_Grievous
Posted: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 12:57:26 PM
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Going to bring out the big guns, the Queen of chaos and destruction herself. Abeloth. Especially with the upcoming epic vset it would be cool to see the epic designers here take a shot at such a challenge.


Here is an old idea I updated for the challenge:

http://www.bloomilk.com/Custom/18533/abeloth

She's meant to be a one person army, taking a page out of epics and a page out of Pong Krell I came up with this.
surf_rider56
Posted: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 6:52:14 AM
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Seriously GG? Abeloth? Luke Barely beat her in the books; using game mechanics, she's unbeatable and who wants to play against that?

One of the reasons I hate Uniques and an "Epic" one at that. Other then as an intellectual exercise ..... still, have at it guys. Maybe next character unless my wife teases me into this ....
jak
Posted: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 7:26:16 AM
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what he said^
I give GG the win, and we get the abeloth.
time for research
General_Grievous
Posted: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 1:41:31 PM
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Ah come on guys that's no way to take a challenge on. She will be potentially on the pricey side but you could make one of her avatars, an epic beat stick, or even a cheaper "pre-Bathing in the pool of knowledge" servant support version. I was really curious to see what you would do Surf. But quickly Surf's wife tease him haha.
CerousMutor
Posted: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 3:41:09 PM
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surf_rider56
Posted: Thursday, April 28, 2016 6:48:39 AM
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General_Grievous wrote:
Ah come on guys that's no way to take a challenge on. She will be potentially on the pricey side but you could make one of her avatars, an epic beat stick, or even a cheaper "pre-Bathing in the pool of knowledge" servant support version. I was really curious to see what you would do Surf. But quickly Surf's wife tease him haha.


"Potentionally Pricey?" Even if you go "Pre-Drinking of the Koolaid" she'd still most likely more powerful than Yoda/Luke or whoever. .... and leave my wife out of this! OMG

If done correctly, she should be unbeatable, using gaming mechanics ..... her Wook entry names more abilities than you can shake a stick at ......

Someone said that a "good" Abeloth would be broken; my counter was how can a "god-like entity" be broken? Game mechanics (again) would make her impossible to beat (unless you created a Luke, Killer of Abeloth piece) and no, I'll Never do that .....
CerousMutor
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surf_rider56 wrote:
General_Grievous wrote:
Ah come on guys that's no way to take a challenge on. She will be potentially on the pricey side but you could make one of her avatars, an epic beat stick, or even a cheaper "pre-Bathing in the pool of knowledge" servant support version. I was really curious to see what you would do Surf. But quickly Surf's wife tease him haha.


"Potentionally Pricey?" Even if you go "Pre-Drinking of the Koolaid" she'd still most likely more powerful than Yoda/Luke or whoever. .... and leave my wife out of this! OMG

If done correctly, she should be unbeatable, using gaming mechanics ..... her Wook entry names more abilities than you can shake a stick at ......

Someone said that a "good" Abeloth would be broken; my counter was how can a "god-like entity" be broken? Game mechanics (again) would make her impossible to beat (unless you created a Luke, Killer of Abeloth piece) and no, I'll Never do that .....


I agree but the fun is making interesting.
surf_rider56
Posted: Thursday, April 28, 2016 8:56:40 AM
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So, who is Abeloth?

If you ignore the whole Mortis mythology and only take away the Pool bit and her intense desire to live forever schtick,
what do we have?

A being of incredible power, able to fool anyone with illusions, take over bodies seemingly at will, but while capable
of duking it out with anyone, isn't necessarily confrontational. Her only vulnerability, apparently, is dividing herself
up by taking over too many people and having those entities killed.

She's demonstrated so many abilities that you could fill up two "Epic" cards; you can't really make an Uber Abeloth, so
which aspect of her personality do you try for ....

I broke my own advice and attempted to do an all purpose creature. Yes some of her powers "overlap" or duplicate themselves,

but its more of the "What force power is more economical" at any time than anything.

Yes, her numbers are ridiculous, and her Force Points absurd; but the newer "Powers" I've created are also absurd, expensive

and very quickly she's drained and then has to be picky about What she can do to somewhat project her weakening as a battle

continues.

But this one can take you over, suck you dry, blast you, stop you from hitting her in a variety of ways, heal herself, remove

herself from danger ... there's a reason why I HATE epics; they're no fun game-wise.

And no, the wife didn't make me do this, it was the intellectual exercise more than anything.









... and no, I don't ever want to do another Epic piece again. Too painful .......


Ughh.....


Surf
jak
Posted: Thursday, April 28, 2016 10:04:57 AM
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General_Grievous
Posted: Thursday, April 28, 2016 7:21:53 PM
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Yes! The genius of Surf taking on an epic, that was worth the whole challenge haha. Really interesting take and only thing I would do is lower the save on forceful transfer essence or make it only allies or only non-uniques as right now she could one hit kill an epic or BHC piece. I like the simplistic SA in favour of more force powers as well as the souped up versions of already known powers. Also what a sweet name. Great job!
Lafcadio
Posted: Friday, April 29, 2016 12:38:47 PM
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Here's my attempt:

This is after a quick/hurried glance at wookiepedia, so I'm sure it needs some work. (and I know the name is quite a mouth full)

http://www.bloomilk.com/Custom/25432/chief-of-state-rokari-kem--abeloth-avatar

This is Abeloth in the form of one of the people she possesses.

Feedback is welcome!
General_Grievous
Posted: Saturday, April 30, 2016 8:20:23 AM
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Everyone in? Get the voting started now?
Lafcadio
Posted: Saturday, April 30, 2016 6:39:23 PM
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surf_rider56
Posted: Saturday, April 30, 2016 7:34:51 PM
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Caedus
Posted: Saturday, April 30, 2016 8:04:17 PM
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Sorry guys, just closed and moved to our new house. I'll be back with the next challenge
Lafcadio
Posted: Saturday, April 30, 2016 8:10:25 PM
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Woof! Sorry, I'm not really sure how to analyze these... I've never really encountered pieces like this before.

But here's my voting:

1st: Surf Rider
I feel like this piece is the closest to what I imagined Abeloth to be like when I first heard of her. I really like "Dominate 2"!

2nd: General Grievous
I am a fan of "Immediate Force Reserves 30"! That's awesome!

3rd: Jak
The SAs/FPs fit the character really well!

Good job guys!
General_Grievous
Posted: Saturday, April 30, 2016 9:00:18 PM
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Caedus wrote:
Sorry guys, just closed and moved to our new house. I'll be back with the next challenge


All good/it's not to late for a last minute entry hahaha
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