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Caedus
Posted: Thursday, February 2, 2017 12:04:19 PM
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Can force pull be used on a character with Shrouded? Since pull states move a character with in 6 adjacent to this character and then attack. I understand you cant attack but can he/she still be moved with this power? Also What is/are the total list of Abilities/Powers that can NOT be used against a character with Shrouded? I think this might stop the confusion
FlyingArrow
Posted: Thursday, February 2, 2017 12:28:06 PM
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Caedus wrote:
Can force pull be used on a character with Shrouded? Since pull states move a character with in 6 adjacent to this character and then attack. I understand you cant attack but can he/she still be moved with this power? Also What is/are the total list of Abilities/Powers that can NOT be used against a character with Shrouded? I think this might stop the confusion


Force Pull cannot be used against a character with Shrouded. Pull is an ability that targets a character (the word target is in the ability). The acting character then gets to attack the targeted character.

Any ability (CE or SA) that chooses a target cannot choose the Shrouded character. Since the vast majority of abilities follow the targeting rules, it's probably easier to list abilities that *can* be used against Shrouded.

* Most Abilities that generate attacks can be used. When an attacks are generated (like Lightsaber Assault or Lightsaber Throw), the target of the ability is the acting character - receiving the benefit of getting to make attacks. The enemy is the target of the attacks, not the target of the ability. Since Shrouded doesn't prevent attacks (or targeting for an attack), Shrouded doesn't prevent Lightsaber Throw or Lightsaber Assault or Galloping Attack or Lightsaber Sweep or Strafe Attack.

* Grenades, Flamethrower, etc can affect the Shrouded character if they are standing next to the target, but they can't be chosen as the target themselves.

* Event Manipulator does not target, so a Shrouded character (or even a Diplomat) can be selected.

* Levitation does not target.

* Force Repulse, War Throat, and other area effects do not target.

I probably missed a few, but generally, if you're choosing an enemy (especially using the targeting rules), you're choosing a target (unless the glossary says otherwise). If you aren't targeting the enemy for an attack, then you're probably targeting the enemy with an ability... and can't choose a Shrouded enemy if you're within 6.
DarkDracul
Posted: Thursday, February 2, 2017 12:29:31 PM
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Usually, in those instances you check the Glossary text. It's usually more specific than the card text.

Force Pull
(Variable Force Points) This group of Force Powers moves a target enemy character to a space adjacent to this character and allows this character to make attacks against that enemy. This movement ignores terrain (except walls) and other characters, and does not provoke attacks of opportunity. The enemy must end the move in any legal landing spot adjacent to this character and takes the shortest possible route to that space. If multiple routes are tied for shortest, pick one. Force Pull itself is not an attack and does not require an attack roll, although it does allow attacks.
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