Princess Leia (Alliance and Empire)
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Princess Leia, Rebel Commando (Scum and Villainy)
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4
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Rank: Advanced Bloo Milk Member Groups: Member
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20 point Princess Leia gives a cannon shot.
Leia Rebel Commando gives out +10 damage once she's injured, and has versatility.
Which is better?
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Rank: Advanced Bloo Milk Member Groups: Member
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I'm definitely in the A+E camp - sometimes simpler is better. Also, I think you can toss Princess Leia into a lot of Rebel builds, as long as you have a good follower like Kanan, Luke Hero of Endor, or Han Smuggler she's great. While you have to build around Leia Commando, as you need something to trigger her CE.
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Agree with A&E in general, but obviously Rebel Commando is the better choice in a good number of squads. Really well designed piece to not overshadow the top tier Leia but be a reasonable choice beside her.
If I don't know anything about a squad and you just tell me to pick a Leia, I'll grab A&E. If I have a squad with multiple characters that need a damage boost and I can easily bring in something to hurt Leia myself, though, Rebel Commando will often be the better choice.
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Rank: Uggernaught Groups: Member
Joined: 4/23/2015 Posts: 31
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My vote is biased no offense that I do not acknowledge V-sets. But regardless of that still L. A&E keeps a slight edge. Plus she comes with a specific miniature which is a bonus compared to a printed off card, humbly of course.
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Joined: 6/10/2010 Posts: 760 Location: The Shadowlands of Kashyyyk
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Did not mean to vote for Commando. A&E Leia all the way. Out of curiosity why do you not acknowledge v-sets?
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I don't really know why so many people are for the 20 pt.
19 pt Leia allows damage bonus to every attack. so if you have say Luke HoE and Ahsoka, Luke is getting plus 40 potential damage. Ahsoka is getting the same thing. The better thing is that you can get these in the same phase. Also, Cunning, Accurate, Stealth, and a surprise attack can be powerful. And if you dont se eyourself attacking and want to pick up a little more movement you can versatility into a different Leia or can become a diplomat with cunning attack. which is cool. Son Of Skywalker goes well with her as well. 2 attacks at +4 +10 damage and add 10 more to each. Dropping 80 damage on that turn. just so many options.
With 20 pt Leia you get the extra attack and can do 50 with Luke, but you have to wait to use Ahsoka next round. Which screams using Dodonna and lots of activations. Not nearly as much options and to use it you use up an activation for the round and it does not allow for maximum damage output.
As the game moves to more uniques the 19 pt RC will become more and more attractive.
Their are a plethora of ways to cause damage on a character these days that are inexpensive and can be worth it.
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BogaRider wrote:My vote is biased no offense that I do not acknowledge V-sets. That's OK. They acknowledge you.
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juice man wrote:BogaRider wrote:My vote is biased no offense that I do not acknowledge V-sets. That's OK. They acknowledge you. Lol it's mainly just I was mad and hurt that the game was canceled. I didn't want v-sets to take over and make a million changes with so many small specific SA's and unknown small time characters. I didn't feel like the game was super broken. I thought if we left it alone, someone else would have possibly restarted the game. Especially with all these movies out and coming out. I loved buying packs and trading online you know the whole supply and demand. Thrill of the chase to finally physically hold the mint condition mini I was after brought tears to my eyes haha. To be able to obtain the whole set by simply printing it off wasn't thrilling, no chase. I liked the sculpts as well even to display them, I'll be the first to admit easily that the quality left them long ago, mostly after Clone Wars. K'Kruhk always looks nice though lol. I feel though that we could have prevented a power creep by making say in a tournament Boba BH less a beast or Lancers less n people like capt pancakes more playable, they could have tweaked stats and basically did a v-set release for each G-con that we could print off and build squads with while still being able to play the originals in a different tournament. Keep a tournament for the OG's and keep it interesting with a separate tournament that did change stats for a one time chase for the title. I really don't mind v-sets I just don't have the space in my heart for all of them. Life is busy. Plus there is so many of them. Eventually there will be a shortage of proxies and this vset will start to struggle I believe. Either way though I am grateful as it does keep this site up that I love and the community tight and alive. For that I can appreciate what v-sets have done for the game. It keeps the lungs filled with air. It's all I can ask.
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I still think the main strike against the v-sets is complexity, not power creep - although some squad types have got a lot stronger, for instance the v-sets allow much better swarm squads and rock squads.
The game wasn't broken at the end of WOTC, it was just limited at a competitive level with only a handful of squads that could win a major tournament.
But an essentially WOTC Skybuck squad was second at GenCon in 2016 and core mechanics like mass killers, activation control, and movement breakers like swap are still key and largely the domain of WOTC pieces.
Also, Panaka is much more of a competitive piece than Boba BH is. Boba was out-classed by the end of WOTC by more powerful shooters like Cad Bane.
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BogaRider wrote:Lol it's mainly just I was mad and hurt that the game was canceled. I didn't want v-sets to take over and make a million changes with so many small specific SA's and unknown small time characters. I didn't feel like the game was super broken. I thought if we left it alone, someone else would have possibly restarted the game. Especially with all these movies out and coming out. I loved buying packs and trading online you know the whole supply and demand. Thrill of the chase to finally physically hold the mint condition mini I was after brought tears to my eyes haha. To be able to obtain the whole set by simply printing it off wasn't thrilling, no chase. I liked the sculpts as well even to display them, I'll be the first to admit easily that the quality left them long ago, mostly after Clone Wars. K'Kruhk always looks nice though lol. I feel though that we could have prevented a power creep by making say in a tournament Boba BH less a beast or Lancers less n people like capt pancakes more playable, they could have tweaked stats and basically did a v-set release for each G-con that we could print off and build squads with while still being able to play the originals in a different tournament. Keep a tournament for the OG's and keep it interesting with a separate tournament that did change stats for a one time chase for the title. I really don't mind v-sets I just don't have the space in my heart for all of them. Life is busy. Plus there is so many of them. Eventually there will be a shortage of proxies and this vset will start to struggle I believe. Either way though I am grateful as it does keep this site up that I love and the community tight and alive. For that I can appreciate what v-sets have done for the game. It keeps the lungs filled with air. It's all I can ask. Breathe, Boga! Breathe. I can understand not having "space in my heart" for them. Felt that way for many WotC pieces that I had no clue who they were. Having not watched the cartoon or read the books they came from.
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Yeah and now officially the EU books are now unofficial. It took some days lol but I was feeling able to get my breathing done after that unfortunate "rant" I appreciate that no one took offense when I was just throwing my two cents in, ok maybe I chucked a whole dollar of change out there. Star wars runs through my blood. I have a hard time changing, even harder time accepting changes. I grew up a raw life for a gringo. But star wars n the escape to a new hope really molded me into the independent goal striking chuck I am today. So when I magically discovered this game. I immediately felt a bond. And when wizard threw our hobby away, I couldn't go along with that it was ok. Wotc can cap themselves n then I'd be a V-set fan. They took their pay check n checked out. Leaving us to pick up the bill. I wil say I do love the fact that ewoks are better, I used to love for whatever reason kicking ass with an SS Ewok. In fact a long time ago (get ready to be shocked) I did read through all the vsets. I thought 65% were good. I even made a v-set ewok squad. I say harsh cruel things but its not my true feelings.
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I think the thing that often tips the scales to Princess Leia (A&E) that surprisingly nobody has mentioned is that's she's a movement breaker (of sorts). You can run a follower double speed and have them attack in one phase (assuming you have relay orders or Leia herself w/in 6).
That can be quite huge.
You can also levitate with Luke, use your Leia shot, use your regular attack,and then get out of LoS, only being in danger for one phase as opposed to being stuck there.
You have much more attack and defensive flexibility.
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Gold metal bikini is always the best.
Oh ... you mean which mini ... never mind.
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