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donnyrides
Posted: Friday, June 30, 2017 10:44:14 AM
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I just had a crazy thought and I have my flame shield ready and waiting for all the hate around this idea,

What if we developed SWM series 2. A brand new start to the entire thing from stormies to Darth Bane. There would be no meta fixing, power creep, combo considerations from release one.

The set would be 150 characters and Fringe would only be for tech not as a faction of their own.

Just canon:
Rebels
NR
OR
Rep
Sep
Imps
Sith
Fringe - tech

No Vong
No Mandos - (up for debate)
No squad altering abilities
No swap
No booming voice
No super stealth
No Savage
No random seen once characters like Rathtars and scene filler toy sellers.


Rebels
Luke
Leia
Han
Chewie
Old Ben
Ghost Crew
Rogue One
Troopers/pilots

NR
Resistance
Troopers/Pilots
Whatever else is still canon

OR
KotOR stuff
bane book series stuff
Troopers

Rep
Movies 1, 2 and 3
Clone wars

Sep
Movies 1, 2 and 3
Clone wars

Imps
Movies 3, 4, 5 and 6
First Order
Rogue One movie
Boba - yes imp. He was never any of the republics or rebel or sith or sep

Sith
All the canon bad asses
Gloomwalkers

Fringe
Flavorless tech (R7, uggies, mice, etc..)
Gizmotronx
Posted: Friday, June 30, 2017 10:51:51 AM
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+1
TimmerB123
Posted: Friday, June 30, 2017 10:53:16 AM
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Absolutely nothing stopping you from doing this. I'd participate in an alternative format tournament with these pieces if you set it up
shmi15
Posted: Friday, June 30, 2017 11:02:01 AM
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Lol, the idea has been done before, but before the new movies. I'm agreed on a lot of the things, but I am a fan of the books, tv shows, and comics, so the movies are not the only universe I see.

Mandos are big in the TV show, so I could easily see them as being in this.
The Vong, thank God, are not.
Fringe is a faction of its own... But only in sub-faction form. Like Hutt Cartel, and what not.
First Order would be a new faction.
And The Resistance would be a new faction
At some point, the NR would be its own faction.


The idea is great, but the problem really is Squad Builder, and having a list of Updated legal pieces. Believe me, thats a hassle to remember. Not crazy to do it, just very... very... very tedious.
donnyrides
Posted: Friday, June 30, 2017 11:06:50 AM
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shmi15 wrote:
Lol, the idea has been done before, but before the new movies. I'm agreed on a lot of the things, but I am a fan of the books, tv shows, and comics, so the movies are not the only universe I see.

Mandos are big in the TV show, so I could easily see them as being in this.
The Vong, thank God, are not.
Fringe is a faction of its own... But only in sub-faction form. Like Hutt Cartel, and what not.
First Order would be a new faction.
And The Resistance would be a new faction
At some point, the NR would be its own faction.


The idea is great, but the problem really is Squad Builder, and having a list of Updated legal pieces. Believe me, thats a hassle to remember. Not crazy to do it, just very... very... very tedious.


The bolded items I agree with 100%. Your fringe idea I would give a new faction name like 'cartel' or something and leave Fringe alone as wildcard pieces.
General_Grievous
Posted: Friday, June 30, 2017 11:41:00 AM
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Definitely free to make as you want, I'm definitely going to keep playing the original version haha
poppins88
Posted: Friday, June 30, 2017 1:27:25 PM
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If we're starting from the ground up, why make 7+ factions to balance? Do what the Old WOTC TCG did and just have Light, Dark, and Fringe.
Caedus
Posted: Friday, June 30, 2017 1:55:51 PM
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General_Grievous wrote:
Definitely free to make as you want, I'm definitely going to keep playing the original version haha

+1
Darth_Jim
Posted: Friday, June 30, 2017 5:18:28 PM
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Sorry. I like my Fringe.
kezzamachineII
Posted: Saturday, July 1, 2017 2:05:04 AM
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Sorry. I like my Vong!
General_Grievous
Posted: Saturday, July 1, 2017 4:45:47 AM
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kezzamachineII wrote:
Sorry. I like my Vong!


Heck yeah! Commonwealth country Vong brother! Canada loves them too!
DarthMaim
Posted: Saturday, July 1, 2017 10:02:59 AM
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donnyrides wrote:


No Vong




+1.
AceAce
Posted: Saturday, July 1, 2017 1:57:58 PM
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Good Luck
swinefeld
Posted: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 8:36:26 PM
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donnyrides wrote:
shmi15 wrote:
Lol, the idea has been done before, but before the new movies. I'm agreed on a lot of the things, but I am a fan of the books, tv shows, and comics, so the movies are not the only universe I see.

Mandos are big in the TV show, so I could easily see them as being in this.
The Vong, thank God, are not.
Fringe is a faction of its own... But only in sub-faction form. Like Hutt Cartel, and what not.
First Order would be a new faction.
And The Resistance would be a new faction
At some point, the NR would be its own faction.


The idea is great, but the problem really is Squad Builder, and having a list of Updated legal pieces. Believe me, thats a hassle to remember. Not crazy to do it, just very... very... very tedious.


The bolded items I agree with 100%. Your fringe idea I would give a new faction name like 'cartel' or something and leave Fringe alone as wildcard pieces.


Fringe was not defined as a Faction by WotC. The term defined is "Fringe-only" squads. Basically, as someone else said above re: the TCG, it falls to Light Side or Dark Side alignment, and then Fringe as random support. :)
jak
Posted: Thursday, July 13, 2017 11:58:51 AM
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General_Grievous wrote:
kezzamachineII wrote:
Sorry. I like my Vong!


Heck yeah! Commonwealth country Vong brother! Canada loves them too!


your British Imperial fathers would disapprove.
A proper English gentleman only supports Miskey's New canon
ya can't love Vong and droidsFlapper
Boris
Posted: Sunday, July 30, 2017 11:01:08 AM
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I think Star Wars Minis 2.0 is a fantastic idea. I don't know that I'd dumb it so far down as basic light and dark, but I do recall Rob saying if he had it to do over he would have made everything with the name Republic in it just "Republic," so no New or Old - which makes sense. I don't think you really need a "Sith" faction either - just make those pieces Fringe with the Sith ability (may not be in a Republic or Rebel squad).
blemelisk
Posted: Sunday, July 30, 2017 11:52:21 AM
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This looks like a good place to ask this. Does anyone know why they made the star wars game base 10 for damage and health instead of base 5 like DnD minis? DnD came out first:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeons_%26_Dragons_Miniatures_Game
before star wars minis did:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Miniatures

I would have thought that the base 5 system would be better as it adds more subtlety for damage and health. and would help in adjusting the nobs we have on abilities etc for a more nuanced control and balancing factor.
EmporerDragon
Posted: Sunday, July 30, 2017 1:01:41 PM
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blemelisk wrote:
This looks like a good place to ask this. Does anyone know why they made the star wars game base 10 for damage and health instead of base 5 like DnD minis? DnD came out first:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungeons_%26_Dragons_Miniatures_Game
before star wars minis did:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Miniatures

I would have thought that the base 5 system would be better as it adds more subtlety for damage and health. and would help in adjusting the nobs we have on abilities etc for a more nuanced control and balancing factor.


SWM was designed to be easier to get into than D&D Minis, and thus had simpler rules. Keeping the damage at levels of 10 also makes it easier and quicker for people to calculate totals.
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