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Darth Percocet
Posted: Friday, July 17, 2009 1:11:12 PM
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Hey there, ok my question is this. Lets say your playing against a Twilek & Bith Vigo team & you use Force Sense of them to take stealth away, losing the stealth for a round is the vigo still able to give evade & then gma or do you stop it because you took away stealth from that team?

thanx to all who answer
joelker41
Posted: Friday, July 17, 2009 1:15:48 PM
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Darth Percocet wrote:
Hey there, ok my question is this. Lets say your playing against a Twilek & Bith Vigo team & you use Force Sense of them to take stealth away, losing the stealth for a round is the vigo still able to give evade & then gma or do you stop it because you took away stealth from that team?

thanx to all who answer


Yes the ability to use GMA is dependent on having Evade. You need Stealth to get Evade.

No Stealth = No Evade = no GMA.

If you don't have the pre-reqs for a CE you can't use it. And Force Sense says it "Cancels" the Stealth, so for the rest of the round none of those powers may be used.Wink
Darth Percocet
Posted: Friday, July 17, 2009 1:29:48 PM
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ok i got ya thanx man.. yea i just thought it worked like example sidholo gives renewal to pieces who dont have a force rating so enemies with jedi hunter cant use JH on them pieces ya know.. but i got ya thanx again man
joelker41
Posted: Friday, July 17, 2009 1:53:45 PM
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Darth Percocet wrote:
ok i got ya thanx man.. yea i just thought it worked like example sidholo gives renewal to pieces who dont have a force rating so enemies with jedi hunter cant use JH on them pieces ya know.. but i got ya thanx again man


That works because there is no pre-req only to be able to be given a Commander Effect (meaning not Droids or Savage).

And spending Force Points doesn't mean you have a Force Rating. HoloSid doesn't grant a Force Rating like Light Tutor.

(I am sure you knew that last part just explaining the 'why'). Wink
Darth Percocet
Posted: Saturday, July 18, 2009 2:56:48 AM
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yea you helped me out alot man thank you for that.. so if you grant light tutor with lets say yoda of dagobah to a figure then they are considered having a force rating meaning then jedi hunter would work on them? since light tutor says this character is considered as having a force rating till the end of the skirmish.. since it falls under the giving pre requirments?
Eroschilles
Posted: Saturday, July 18, 2009 4:12:58 AM
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Yes, jedi hunter would work against those benifiting from light tutor.
seibermaki
Posted: Monday, July 20, 2009 5:39:14 AM
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Does Force Sense work against Moff Nyna Calixte's CE where she gives characters with Stealth, "super stealth"?

Also, Does Force Sense work against Cloaked??
ecs05norway
Posted: Monday, July 20, 2009 5:41:26 AM
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seibermaki wrote:
Does Force Sense work against Moff Nyna Calixte's CE where she gives characters with Stealth, "super stealth"?


Yes

Quote:
Also, Does Force Sense work against Cloaked??


No
EmporerDragon
Posted: Monday, July 20, 2009 5:41:46 AM
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1) Yes, as they no longer have Stealth, they do not benefit from her CE.

2)No, Cloaked is not Stealth.
FlyingArrow
Posted: Monday, July 20, 2009 6:25:20 AM
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seibermaki wrote:
Does Force Sense work against Moff Nyna Calixte's CE where she gives characters with Stealth, "super stealth"?


More specifically, Force Sense does not affect the CE. It cancels Stealth for the whole squad so that no one has Stealth and so no one benefits from the CE (even though the CE itself is "in effect"). If hypothetically some future ability existed such as "Stealth Mastery: This character has Stealth and is immune to the effects of Force Sense", then that character could benefit from Moff Nyna's CE.
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