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TimmerB123
Posted: Sunday, December 12, 2021 11:16:58 AM
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Players and squads
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TimmerB123

http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/231194/d-m-v---dao-montross-venku-

--D.M.V. (Dao/Montross/Venku)--
54 Montross
41 Dao Stryver
32 Venku Skirata
28 Kelborn
23 Mandalorian Captain
14 Mandalorian Strike Force Leader
8 R7 Astromech Droid

(200pts. 7 activations)

Map: Asteroid Base
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thereisnotry

http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/231193/a-new-hope

--A New Hope--
48 Han Solo, Captain of the Millennium Falcon
45 Son of Skywalker
30 Chewbacca, Rebel Hero
25 Sabine Wren
21 Lando Calrissian, Infiltrator
18 Artoo-Detoo (R2-D2)
12 See-Threepio (C-3PO)

(199pts. 7 activations)

Map: Gangster's Vault
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gandalfthegreatestwizard

http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/207951/farseeing-covenant

--Farseeing Covenant--
30 Covenant Protector
29 Raana Tey, Jedi Master
26 Xamar, Covenant Consular
22 Master Q'Anilia
20 Covenant Defender
14 Krynda Draay
18 Arca Jeth, Jedi Spirit
14 Old Republic Senator
9 Covenant Sentinel
8 Togruta Covenant Seer
3 Mouse Droid
3 Ugnaught Demolitionist
3 XT-6 Droid

(199 pts. 13 activations)

map: Imperial Garrison
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UrbanShmi

http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/229989/allies-of-talon

-Allies of Talon--
67 The Mandalorian (Din Djarin) and the Child
32 IG-11
32 Talon Karrde, Information Broker
31 Cara Dune
17 Gorman "Camper" Vandrayk
15 Ponda Baba, Galactic Criminal
6 Ugnaught Demolitionist x2

(200pts. 8 activations)

Map is Desert Marketplace
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TimmerB123
Posted: Sunday, December 12, 2021 1:03:28 PM
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gandalfthegreatestwizard over TimmerB123 136-80 (2-0)

thereisnotry over UrbanShmi 200-188 (3-1)
TimmerB123
Posted: Sunday, December 12, 2021 2:08:01 PM
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TimmerB123 over UrbanShmi 200-56 (3-0)

gandalfthegreatestwizard over thereisnotry 200-27 (3-0)
TimmerB123
Posted: Sunday, December 12, 2021 3:00:15 PM
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TimmerB123 defeats thereisnotry 200-137 (3-1)

gandalfthegreatestwizard defeats UrbanShmi 200-50 (3-0)
TimmerB123
Posted: Sunday, December 12, 2021 3:03:20 PM
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Final Standings

3-0 8pts gandalfthegreatestwizard
2-1 6pts TimmerB123
1-2 4pts thereisnotry
0-3 1pt UrbanShmi


Congrats to our Kiwi friend for the win! Hopefully we can get a few more people roped in for next month!
FlyingArrow
Posted: Sunday, December 12, 2021 5:12:36 PM
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TimmerB123 wrote:

TimmerB123

http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/231194/d-m-v---dao-montross-venku-

--D.M.V. (Dao/Montross/Venku)--
54 Montross
41 Dao Stryver
32 Venku Skirata
28 Kelborn
23 Mandalorian Captain
14 Mandalorian Strike Force Leader
8 R7 Astromech Droid

(200pts. 7 activations)

Map: Asteroid Base
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How did Dao do? Did Event Manipulator come into play at all? I keep thinking that ability should lead to some clever, unexpected plays, but I haven't really experienced them myself.
FlyingArrow
Posted: Sunday, December 12, 2021 5:14:14 PM
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TimmerB123 wrote:

thereisnotry

http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/231193/a-new-hope

--A New Hope--
48 Han Solo, Captain of the Millennium Falcon
45 Son of Skywalker
30 Chewbacca, Rebel Hero
25 Sabine Wren
21 Lando Calrissian, Infiltrator
18 Artoo-Detoo (R2-D2)
12 See-Threepio (C-3PO)

(199pts. 7 activations)

Map: Gangster's Vault


I sense shades of Prison Break. What seemed good/bad about this squad after playing it?
TimmerB123
Posted: Monday, December 13, 2021 7:50:55 AM
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FlyingArrow wrote:
TimmerB123 wrote:

TimmerB123

http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/231194/d-m-v---dao-montross-venku-

--D.M.V. (Dao/Montross/Venku)--
54 Montross
41 Dao Stryver
32 Venku Skirata
28 Kelborn
23 Mandalorian Captain
14 Mandalorian Strike Force Leader
8 R7 Astromech Droid

(200pts. 7 activations)

Map: Asteroid Base
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How did Dao do? Did Event Manipulator come into play at all? I keep thinking that ability should lead to some clever, unexpected plays, but I haven't really experienced them myself.


Dao has some great tricks, but is just too fragile. If she just had 10 more HP that would make a big difference.

In my first game I stupidly forgot the entire game that even when I get 4 attacks, I can still missile/electrified net on top of that. That might have flipped the results.

Never quite found the chance to use event manipulator, again probably because she’s so fragile. Last thing you want is for her to be adjacent to an enemy. I had thoughts of putting enemies adjacent to each other for an improved missile overload from Montross (especially a diplomat?), but you have to be on the opposite side of both enemies to not get hit yourself. It would be a very very unique situation where it was the right play. You’d rarely be within 6 to use it, and running 12 to use it instead of 4 attacks and a missile/net is a massive exchange.

It’s a good squad overall, but not totally top tier
thereisnotry
Posted: Monday, December 13, 2021 2:13:59 PM
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FlyingArrow wrote:
TimmerB123 wrote:

thereisnotry

http://www.bloomilk.com/Squad/231193/a-new-hope

--A New Hope--
48 Han Solo, Captain of the Millennium Falcon
45 Son of Skywalker
30 Chewbacca, Rebel Hero
25 Sabine Wren
21 Lando Calrissian, Infiltrator
18 Artoo-Detoo (R2-D2)
12 See-Threepio (C-3PO)

(199pts. 7 activations)

Map: Gangster's Vault


I sense shades of Prison Break. What seemed good/bad about this squad after playing it?

This squad is not worth playing...Tier 2 at best. Son of Skywalker is not worth 45pts, and I question the value of Artoo for 18pts.

To get the Prison Break squad, drop Sabine and SoS (25pts and 45pts), then buy L&L (55pts) and Crix (16pts). Then Artoo downgrades to the regular R2, and you add Dodonna.

This squad base (Han, Chewie, Lando) was actually the goal I had in mind several years ago, when I came up with the Prison Break idea. I wanted to find a way to get a little bit more "punch" in the squad so I recognized that Lando gave a major boost to HanSicle, which led to the Prison Break squad. But this Han, along with Lando and Chewbacca, was the foundation that I originally had in mind.

I think the Prison Break squad is so much better than this squad is, because a high-powered (and high-hp) strafer is always good, and Disruptive (along with a great BG) is very helpful...and back in the day, Dodonna's CE was really helpful too. It's nice to free Han when you can, but it's definitely not necessary.
FlyingArrow
Posted: Monday, December 13, 2021 3:01:47 PM
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thereisnotry wrote:
I sense shades of Prison Break. What seemed good/bad about this squad after playing it?

This squad is not worth playing...Tier 2 at best. Son of Skywalker is not worth 45pts, and I question the value of Artoo for 18pts.

To get the Prison Break squad, drop Sabine and SoS (25pts and 45pts), then buy L&L (55pts) and Crix (16pts). Then Artoo downgrades to the regular R2, and you add Dodonna.

This squad base (Han, Chewie, Lando) was actually the goal I had in mind several years ago, when I came up with the Prison Break idea. I wanted to find a way to get a little bit more "punch" in the squad so I recognized that Lando gave a major boost to HanSicle, which led to the Prison Break squad. But this Han, along with Lando and Chewbacca, was the foundation that I originally had in mind.

I think the Prison Break squad is so much better than this squad is, because a high-powered (and high-hp) strafer is always good, and Disruptive (along with a great BG) is very helpful...and back in the day, Dodonna's CE was really helpful too. It's nice to free Han when you can, but it's definitely not necessary.[/quote]

I do think that Artoo + Threepio is too much tech in combination. I think they're both better paired with the RS versions of their partner. Threepio with the Cloaked trigger is obviously better for a shooting meta. But if you have no CE to transmit, and are expecting a more melee meta (or such high attackers that nobody misses anyway), then Threepio isn't worth including. Artoo could be a good choice, but you need a squad that makes good use of the movement breaker.
TimmerB123
Posted: Monday, December 13, 2021 11:40:27 PM
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FlyingArrow wrote:

I do think that Artoo + Threepio is too much tech in combination. I think they're both better paired with the RS versions of their partner. Threepio with the Cloaked trigger is obviously better for a shooting meta. But if you have no CE to transmit, and are expecting a more melee meta (or such high attackers that nobody misses anyway), then Threepio isn't worth including. Artoo could be a good choice, but you need a squad that makes good use of the movement breaker.


See-Threepio is auto-include in any meta. He’s far to cheap to pass up for what he does.

You mentioned “such high attackers nobody misses”.

Guess what? Montross needed 3s, and roll a 2 on his second attack in our game. What did we do? Nothing for the rest of the round. Needlessly prolonged the game.

You also mentioned non-melee meta. But the really unfortunate thing is that seethreepio was so poorly designed that he is EVEN WORSE for melee. I played a game years ago with him vs 100pt Sidious and Vader of Lothal. He singlehandedly won the game. Stood in a 1 square wide doorway and they couldn’t get through. Diplomat + distraction absolutely is crushing to melee. The piece just wasn’t thought through at all.
jen'ari
Posted: Tuesday, December 14, 2021 10:49:03 AM
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See Threepio is absolute Trash.
The idea that See Threepio can grant Cloaked to others is so bad. Diplomat and Distraction is one of the greatest combos of all time for melee hate.
On top of all that he is a perfect Relay Orders piece.
It absolutely stops Rebels from ever being
1) fun
2) competitive
because pieces like that stunt future designs.

It (like Bastila) need to be gotten rid of. OPEN UP THE FACTIONS!

I just played a few games with some of the TN guys and they all said the same type of stuff. "Why are so many factions obsolete without having a degree in the sub-factions?" was a verbatim question that was asked. They said they couldn't even tell what was powerful in Republic and New Republic and that those 2 factions should be some of the easiest to build with.
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