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Do Guildmaster Cradossk and Captain Tarpals Stack? Options
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Posted: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 1:31:23 PM
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Cradossk:
Bounty Hunter allies within this character's line of sight may replace their turns to move up to their speed, make an attack and then use a special ability that replaces attacks.

Tarpals:
Each follower can use 2 abilities that replace attacks instead of 1 on its turn.

So the question is when the special ability goes off, such as with Zam Wessell, would she get to missile twice after shooting once?

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Posted: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 3:09:13 PM
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The answer is no. Tarpals' commander effect can only be used when you are replacing your attacks in the default way on your turn. With Craddosk, you replace your turn to move, and then you get a free attack and a free use of an ability that would normally replace your attacks, but you aren't technically replacing your attacks at all.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 3:20:15 PM
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Does Cradossk's CE effect Bossk Ultimate Predator?
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Posted: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 3:21:17 PM
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Yes.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 3:23:43 PM
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How, because Bossk U.P already has weapons expert
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Posted: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 4:33:54 PM
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Bossk can't use Weapons Expert and Craddosk's commander effect in the same turn, because if you replace your turn there is no "time" left to use Weapons Expert. (You can't interrupt a replaces turn effect with an ability like Weapons Expert.) So Bossk doesn't actually get any bonus from using Craddosk's commander effect, since he can already move, attack and use an ability. But he's still allowed to use it.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 4:43:02 PM
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Does that mean Montross could move, shoot and then use Improved Missiles 20 twice
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Posted: Wednesday, May 8, 2024 5:56:07 PM
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Yes, except he can only use Improved Missiles once. Same as above with Tarpals.
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Thank you
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Posted: Saturday, May 11, 2024 7:09:45 AM
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Thought I’d continue this thread instead of starting a new one: it seems the crux of the issue here is that Craddosk replaces your turn, so Overload/Weapons Expert/Tarpals are out of luck. What about other abilities that generate extra “Replaces Attacks” uses, like Stable Platform or Dual Weapon Use? Would Dual Weapon Use + Overload allow you to shoot once, then use two Replaces Attacks abilities other than Dual Weapon Use?
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Posted: Saturday, May 11, 2024 4:09:48 PM
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It's even better than that- Overload allows you to use Dual Weapon Use twice when you replace your attacks. So you can attack, use a different special ability that replaces attacks, and then attack again and use a special ability that replaces attacks again. But each time you use Dual Weapon Use, you only get one free replaces attacks ability- Overload or Tarpals doesn't double that up.

Stable Platform isn't affected by Overload, because again you aren't technically replacing your actual attack phase, you just get a free use of a replaces attacks ability after making an attack. Overload and Tarpals only affect replacing the normal attack phase that each character has on its turn.
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