I got my first one today, without any comment. I think the people are ether trying to make sure you, the designer, don't get a big ego by having high rated squads (My squad had only two votes giving it a 9.5 before the one). Or there are just some people that feel the only way to elevate them-self is by tearing someone else down. In this case I think the person receiving the one is just the victim of a poor self image hiding behind a faceless wall.

Oh cripe sakes not this again.

If you don't care what your squad is rated then why start this thread?

I have plenty of squads with 1s on them, never drove me away from the game.

People have complained about this non-stop and it hasn't ended. Why? Cause people keep bringing it up!

Squad ratings do not matter. Period. Helpful comments in the squad building forum and on the squad page themselves do.

Take the emotion out of it. People will do dumb things when they can't get questioned about it, it happens. Worst thing you can do is draw attention to it.

its like deja vu all over again.
the 1 bandits will strike, no matter what.
when you throw a public squad out there, you have to be willing to accept the 1s with the 10s, and the only reason you have to accept them, is that you made the squad public. thats the consequence of squad building.
to me personally, the rating system is useless, its an ego booster.
to me, the best ego booster is chopping someone down with my newly formed squad. thats how i rate my squads these days: if they win, its gets a 1, if it loses, it gets -1.
deja Vu, all over again.

You can't worry about the 1's if you are not worried about the rating. What difference does it make if they leave a 1 with no comment or a 4, or 5, or 6. Most of my squads are rated with plenty of ones, but I have just as many with 4, 5, and 6's that do not have comments. It just doesn't matter because you are not going to be able to stop people from rating and not leaving a comment.

It isn't speculation I speak from experience.

Last two times someone brought this up their squads got pinged with 1s, like almost all of them. I commented in the thread and magically a dozen of my squads got 1s.

It throws fuel on the fire, it like when you are a kid and other kids bugged you, if you ignored them eventually they stop.

I don't post speculation, perhaps you should find facts before judging next time.

I actually know of a way to stop the anonymous 1 ratings. Rather then having the rating drop down be at the top of the squad area you put it next to the "Add a Comment:" Text where you type in your comment. Then in order to leave a comment you must have a number in that drop down and you cant rate unless you leave a comment. And then what ever rating you gave it shows up next to the name in the comment.

And then half or less of the people that now rate squads wuld stop doing so because that is more work.

When you let your name and rating be known the makers of the squad will then pm you for an explanation, happens all the time me and other people like Bill and Jonny.

It just isn't worth the effoet getting flaming darts hissed at me when I leave a comment lol.

Same thing I say everytime this thread pops up.

1. I highly doubt anyone on the site has anywhere near the total amount of 1 votes
I've received and continue to receive. Feel free to count them up and post it. It would be quite funny to see actually.

2. Stop caring about squad ratings. Ratings mean nothing. Any personal worth you have attached to ratings on bloomilk are misplaced. The rating system on this board has been particularly fraught with very poor choices and should never be used as anything substantial.

3. The rating system here is unfixable and broken, and it isn't Shinja's fault. He isn't going to make ratings public in any way, and isn't going to force you to comment in order to rate a squad. We've been over those several times, and both present at least as many problems as they solve. The real problem is that the system has too many squads and growing, and not enough ratings. There really aren't any major solutions to the problem.

4. Take a look at the top squads. Do they strike you as particularly powerful? Are they even better than 5-50 of your own squads? It totally depends on the squad. There are a group of friends on here, who tend to rate each others squads more often, and that results in much more perversion of the ratings than any 1 bandits. People also use very odd personal systems of rating - Like look at the top 200 squad. It has Revan so people vote 10.....

5. 1 is a legitimate rating. I am so sick of seeing people cry because someone gave them a 1 without explanation. The rating system is 1-10 people. Critizing and generalizing 1 voters as "haters" and all the other negative words people use is quite wrong actually. You guys are the ones who haven't read the rules of the system in place. When a rating system uses 1-10, that means all votes, 1-10 are important.

Personally, the thing I am most sick of in the ratings are people who think that 5 is a bad rating for a squad. I get PMs all the time, typically from someone who PMed me asking me to rate their squad crying about why on earth I would give it a 5 when it already had 3 9s and 10s.... Talk about stupid.

6. And finally a new point. 1 bandits do not really affect the rating nearly as much as all of the people on the site using 7 and 8 as average. I actually saw a guy who said that 7 was the lowest he rates.... There are plenty of legitimate reasons to give a squad a 1, and "hating" isn't the only one.

The real problem tends to be two-fold. First, it's people who don't use 1-10 when they rate. 2nd - Lack of rating criteria among players. I rate based on several different criteria, as do most people. The problem is, none of it is consistent from player to player. So one guy like me, might see a Revan squad that looks pretty good for a Revan squad and I'll rate it a 5 for being well above the average. Other people think that's worth a 10, even though it won't beat 90% of the other 200pt squads out there, and most of the time will get slaughtered.

If you want to solve the problem, you need to start a thread on rating criteria, and have a discussion on what we as the bloomilk community want to see people rate squads based on. But I will warn you, even though it will help the ratings overall, it won't totally fix it, partially because people have a higher value of being an individual than is reality and will scoff at criteria being better than their own just because, and partly because there are some kids on here who don't know how to behave properly (and some adults as well). But it would make a difference if 20-25 people were rating squads based on similar criteria and were doing it with regularity.

Not jumping into any debate here...but Bill's #6 point is one that hits home. I must admit, I have been guilty of this. If we all rated by what's actually playable and not to just make friends, then I'm sure we will see the average squad rating drop comparably.

Of course, this would take an effort on squad builders to actually take the constructive criticism (including the ratings) with a grain of salt and NOT take it personally. If that could happen, then the squad builders would actually listen to the advice and grow in knowledge of what a good squad can be.

And, as Bill put it, it would take a "mature" group of honest, helpful players to actually rate and comment truthfully as to the playability of the squads. Not sure if we are there...(perhaps on another site it could work...)

Quote from bill "I actually saw a guy who said that 7 was the lowest he rates.... There are plenty of legitimate reasons to give a squad a 1, and "hating" isn't the only one. "

Hey wow thats me!

I only rate thing i think deserve at least a 7. Player skill with squads is a big deal, squad building is only 50% of the game maybe only really like 30%. I mean someone can play a slow cannon team thats never used it before and get crushed by someone who knows what there doing. The only reason i say that is ive seen it happen. I saw a slow cannon team get absolutly crushed by a tuskan raider swarm. Why? because the tuskan guy knew what he was doing the speeder guy didnt.

Cause seriously if you saw a tuskan raider army you would vote it a 1 even though ive seen that guy pnm just about everything with it.

As far as rating squads 1 goes just go out and play it first. I've never used Revan in a team #1 cause i dont have him #2 cause i dont play sith. If i run across a squad that has Greedo as the main attacker i dont even bother rating it. I only rate things that i think might be able to win a match.

Bottom line dont get upset that someone rated your squad a 1, thats dumb. Post them publicly so you can get some feedback into what you think would make your team better.