This community needs to come together quickly, or we're going to be in real trouble.

Now, I understand the angst out there, they killed our game, and we're all upset and mad about it. We need to remember that none of the players/collectors of SWM is to blame for this. We're all on the same side. We all want to save our game.

Do I agree with every decision that Dean has made in the past? No, but that's ok, because I know he's on my side, working to keep my game going.

The work that's happening over at Gamers matters, it matters a great deal. A lot of the folks over there have been playing SWM since Rebel Storm, and they are very passionate about our game. These people are working now to preserve it.

You see, it's easy to look at guys like Dean and Bill and see them as arrogant and domineering. But that's not reality. These guys, and others, care about this game, and believe it or not, they care about all of us as well. They wouldn't work so hard for the game if they didn't.

At this point we can either be part of the solution or part of the problem. It's really as simple as that. We can support and appreciate and assist those who are working and advocating on our behalf, or we can tear them down, and gauruntee that SWM truly does die.

There are so many wonderful people working for our game. Some are advocates for the game, some make maps for us to play on, and some work quietly at projects like The New Lost Twenty (check it out here: http://www.newswminisdatabase.proboards.com/). They all deserve our thanks and our support.

Lets come together.

It doesn't matter wether you want to go to Gamers or not. And it doesn't matter if you like what gets produced over there.

You are free to disagree with something. Free to have different ideas. But please, please support other members of the SWM community in their efforts tomake good things happen for us all.

I visit this board several times a day, and I've got to say, I haven't seen it.

Besides that,

I'M not 'bashing' your POV or ideas. I think ALL ideas are good. I think that we need to support each other. Not bicker over petty things.

The Gamer's group doesn't have any plans for a Vset till the fall if I understand it correctly. That gives you 6 to 8 months to develop whatever you are working on, and get it out ot the community. I am not talking about a finished product here either. If you were somehow able to truely get the game picked up and continued as it is now, I am sure a lot of people would be listening. That is the only way to get the nay sayers to listen, is prove them wrong. I would think it very hard to get a LF license, and the rights to Wotc's game rules(if that is what you are talking about), plus a manufacturer, designer, sculptor, suppliers, distributors, and retailers to sell it(maybe on online store would be the best route), but never say never, go out and get the ball rolling. Without those things you are looking at a huge lawsuit. If you come back with some legit progress and ideas and can present whats going on, I am sure most people will be very intrigued and willing to listen. Good luck, there are some of us out here willing to help if the need arises.

I'm all for Vsets, because if someone does pick up the game then we just ditch the Vsets and go with the new charcters. But it will get really boring not getting anything new for next few years before someone might(MIGHT~means possibly, not definetly) pick up the game again.
So are we all going to keep arguing and keep the community down and act like fools or are we gonna come together as a whole and keep moving foward? It doesn't matter what site your on.....we need to make a choice before this game gets destroyed completly.
I choose to keep going foward.

Here is the way I see it. The senate has been abolished and the emperor has been killed. Each group is now on their own to decide the fate of their LGS and how they play. The game is only dead if you choose not to play at your LGS. There will not be any new sets from WoTC. We don't know the future whether someone will pick up the pieces or not. There is no reason to speculate. We do know we have one more set and that nothing has changed until that set comes out. We play as normal through the rest of this year.

Dean and those at gamers are doing what they can to ensure that GenCon play survives. It is up to the players to continue that and they are doing what needs to be done. As far as competitive play goes that is for your LGS to decide. It is what your group makes of it. You just have to make sure anyone attending your LGS knows how things are run. The committee they are forming is to help ensure things are across the board nationally. There is no reason to lash out at them because anything they change is still up to you at your LGS to accept. Just remember if you attend a national event you will need to know what has been adopted for national rules. Likewise, if you decide to attend an event at another LGS you need to know what to expect and be prepared to accept that store's "house" rules.

If virtual sets are made then ask yourself how that affects you. There is no reason to fly off the handle if it doesn't affect you. If it does then get involved in the group that is trying to continue the gameplay whether it be at gamers or at WoTC. From my understanding they are continuing their forum community as well.

For me nothing but what goes on at my local events from here on out matters much. Unless I attend events at other locals the rules my group adopts is all that matters. I'm still going to go on enjoying the fun we have together no matter what another group decides. Like the local governors had to rule their planets when the senate was abolished, the heads of the LGS will now be expected to make their own decisions.

If you are going to quote me, please make sure to check the days events as to why that thread was posted.
Everytime peace is made in the late hours, someone has to come with a torch and start a fire all over again. I'm not exactly sure what your intentions are Mouse, and I don't care.
I will say this again, for the last time.
I have no problem with V sets. I have no problem with tutorials on how to customize your minis so they match the cards. I have no problem doing that with other peoples ideas. What I do have a problem with is having all of Gamers favorite customs taking over the V card idea. I'm not saying that this is going to happen, but a healthy fear is a healthy fear. Everyone will want in on this, and thats why we needed to appoint who is in charge. Instead, now we are running on a half cocked plan.
we MoTF coming out in April, Minis totally stop coming from Wizos in May.
From May to August, we have GenCon (not that we need to worry about it, because its a done deal). from August to the fall, we HOPEFULLY have V sets....hopefully.
All I see is the time taken out for Gen Con, and thats great! But we need another group of guys who are also willing to shell out their time and money to help with the production of these V sets.
Mind you, I said i was for the Idea of V sets, I never went through the ordeal of CCG, so I'm not one to judge it. But this game cannot thrive on New V sets every 4 months.
before this game got the Axe, we were losing folks in the community for lack of interest in the game, and thats mostly Wizards fault. we have to be able to learn from their mistakes, and Go forward. We can't just go forward with nothing to go forward with.