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Jedi and Sith Holocrons Options
Darth Chaos
Posted: Sunday, February 14, 2010 4:26:38 PM
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We've always wanted to see Holocrons represented in the game. We thought about setting their speed to 4, but didn't want them too limited. We also thought about having them be an object that could be picked-up and carried, as in one of the scenarios produced by WotC, but we're really trying to make pieces that can function in the standard game without an extended rule set.



The minis were made out of little plastic beads from a craft store. The stand is a Games Workshop flight stand. We put them on small bases.

Anyway, let me know if it looks good or if it needs some tweaking.

You can find our custom cards here:

DARK SIDE's Custom Minis Thread

Some cards have been updated recently after play testing, so check it out.

DC
The Madman
Posted: Monday, February 15, 2010 12:56:52 AM
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Interesting

I think you've come the closest to getting the game 'feel' for what a holicron could do

I like the Sith one but I think at 9-11 points you'd be OK;
but the Jedi one...

The notion of a Jedi Holocron was that they contained TONS of Wisdom, teachings, personal knowledge and Prophetic messages

something more "tactics based" I think would be a better fit

like twin or block or intuition to a characer who doens't already have it...
Darth Chaos
Posted: Monday, February 15, 2010 2:53:29 AM
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The Madman wrote:
Interesting

I think you've come the closest to getting the game 'feel' for what a holicron could do

I like the Sith one but I think at 9-11 points you'd be OK;
but the Jedi one...

The notion of a Jedi Holocron was that they contained TONS of Wisdom, teachings, personal knowledge and Prophetic messages

something more "tactics based" I think would be a better fit

like twin or block or intuition to a characer who doens't already have it...


You don't think a bunch of jedi all of a sudden being able to heal is cool? It's much more efficient than the Rodian Trader, in this respect. I couldn't think of a FP that was more "Jedi" than heal.
Weeks
Posted: Monday, February 15, 2010 6:31:14 AM
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I think they are sweet chaos. Id like it more if they were personalized lie ulic quel droma, holocron or darth revan, Holocron
Darth Chaos
Posted: Monday, February 15, 2010 8:33:23 AM
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Weeks wrote:
I think they are sweet chaos. Id like it more if they were personalized lie ulic quel droma, holocron or darth revan, Holocron


Thanks, Weeks! We're considering it, now that we've got the basic holocrons set up. I'd make the individually associated holocrons unique, though.
The Madman
Posted: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:10:43 PM
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Darth Chaos wrote:


You don't think a bunch of jedi all of a sudden being able to heal is cool? It's much more efficient than the Rodian Trader, in this respect. I couldn't think of a FP that was more "Jedi" than heal.


i dunno... not all jedi can heal and for only 10 hp... so what
I guess in my experience I'd rather take the czerka and work around that... for other characters

for the FP and limiting movments Id think it shoule be a BIG heal like 30-50

or like I was suggesting, some thing more "battle useful"

I suppose I should have started off asking
Is this designed for a scenario or to be compedativly viable?

for a scenario- I think both are fine, as is


but
If I'm facing off against players for a tournament, why would I run this piece instead of one of the other Ghosts or a R7 & Gran or Kel Dor or 4 Ugos/Mouse droids or a Czerka...?



Please don't mis read my criticsm as mean spirited; i just want to get the best out of your ideas
qvos
Posted: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:46:42 PM
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I think its cool , I like the stats and the figures look Great!! Awesome
manchild 61
Posted: Friday, February 19, 2010 3:25:16 AM
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The Madman wrote:
Darth Chaos wrote:


You don't think a bunch of jedi all of a sudden being able to heal is cool? It's much more efficient than the Rodian Trader, in this respect. I couldn't think of a FP that was more "Jedi" than heal.


i dunno... not all jedi can heal and for only 10 hp... so what
I guess in my experience I'd rather take the czerka and work around that... for other characters

for the FP and limiting movments Id think it shoule be a BIG heal like 30-50

or like I was suggesting, some thing more "battle useful"

I suppose I should have started off asking
Is this designed for a scenario or to be compedativly viable?

for a scenario- I think both are fine, as is


but
If I'm facing off against players for a tournament, why would I run this piece instead of one of the other Ghosts or a R7 & Gran or Kel Dor or 4 Ugos/Mouse droids or a Czerka...?



Please don't mis read my criticsm as mean spirited; i just want to get the best out of your ideas


i am with you on this

Weeks wrote:

I think they are sweet chaos. Id like it more if they were personalized lie ulic quel droma, holocron or darth revan, Holocron


i also agre with this

Darth Chaos
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Darth Chaos
Posted: Sunday, February 21, 2010 9:04:23 AM
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The Madman wrote:
Darth Chaos wrote:


You don't think a bunch of jedi all of a sudden being able to heal is cool? It's much more efficient than the Rodian Trader, in this respect. I couldn't think of a FP that was more "Jedi" than heal.


i dunno... not all jedi can heal and for only 10 hp... so what
I guess in my experience I'd rather take the czerka and work around that... for other characters

for the FP and limiting movments Id think it shoule be a BIG heal like 30-50

or like I was suggesting, some thing more "battle useful"

I suppose I should have started off asking
Is this designed for a scenario or to be compedativly viable?

for a scenario- I think both are fine, as is

but
If I'm facing off against players for a tournament, why would I run this piece instead of one of the other Ghosts or a R7 & Gran or Kel Dor or 4 Ugos/Mouse droids or a Czerka...?

Please don't mis read my criticsm as mean spirited; i just want to get the best out of your ideas


Force Heal 10 isn't the most competitive ability, but imagine 3 or 4 Jedi Weapon Masters who can suddenly turn around and heal 10 on someone in trouble. That's 30 or 40 points in one round. For 10 points, the holocron is cheaper than 4 medical droids. Heck, in a clutch situation, the ability to heal can be game changing!

But I agree that Force Heal 10 isn't the "most" useful Force power we could put on the holocron. But Force Renewal 1 might well be, especially considering all the Force users with fixed Force points.

I appreciate your feedback. I don't take any of the critiques of our cards personally. I like going over our version, getting new ideas, agreeing and disagreeing!

DC
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