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Viszla, Death Watch Leader (Mandalorian) Cost 33 HP 70 Def 18 Att 9 Dmg 20 Unique Deadeye Flamethrower 20 Close-Quarters Fighting Rapport (Characters named Death Watch Raider cost 1 less when in a squad with this character) Commander Effect: Death Watch Raiders are only subject to this effect. Death Watch Raiders gain Twin Attack and Ambush and lose Internal Strife while within 6 squares of this character.
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very cool, love this character and like how you represented him
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Thank you, wanted to try to make it worth it to play him along with the Death Watch but try to put the emphasis on not playing other Mandies with him.
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Nice job looks cool.
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Only issue I have is nothing to represent the Darksaber. I don't see anything wrong with just giving him Lightsaber +10.
Also, the first sentence of the CE is not needed. Characters named Death Watch Raider gain... works just the same. And the Ambush part is somewhat wasted, as they can only get Extra from the Gonk Droid.
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Which Death Watch Vizsla is this?
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Darksaber? couldnt find a thing on that. I was reading all the way through the Jango comic and didn't see any mention of this. Lightsaber +10 could replace Deadeye I suppose. Ambush is for flavor for the Death Watch ambushed their targets often. Ulic can bring them to the Sith, add Krayt and they gain extra attack, lots of points to do so, but it can be done.
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Sorry, my bad. You might want to make the name Tor Vizla, as the Clone Wars cartoon has featured a Pre Vizla, also the leader of the Death Watch, who wields a black Lightsaber, or Darksaber.
Gameplay wise, you might be better off with granting Cunning +20 instead of Ambush.
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What is that cartoon doing? They already ruined the Mandies and made them into mercenaries, made it so Karen Traviss can't write her book, and now Tor Viszla and a pre-death watch leader.
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Darth Grievous wrote:What is that cartoon doing? They already ruined the Mandies and made them into mercenaries, made it so Karen Traviss can't write her book, and now Tor Viszla and a pre-death watch leader. The cartoon did nothing about making them Mercenaries, that has been LONG established, way before Traviss. Traviss's issues are her own, but I have seen nothing that tramples over her stories without a little work. And Pre could very well be related to Tor Viszla, as they share the Viszla name and Pre Viszla ressurected the Death Watch. Trust me, at the end of Mando trilogy, the Pacifists are training to fight against the Death Watch, making things easy to fit. I suspect Traviss might have issues with the rumored Baby Boba appearence.
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Well I might change his name to Tor Viszla but definately not giving him a black lightsaber. This mini is to represent Viszla during the time with Jaster and Jango Fett. Might drop Ambush for the bump to cunning.
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Darth Grievous wrote:Well I might change his name to Tor Viszla but definately not giving him a black lightsaber. This mini is to represent Viszla during the time with Jaster and Jango Fett. Might drop Ambush for the bump to cunning. Yeah, I had Pre Viszla on my mind, and didn't think you might've meant Tor Viszla.
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Yea i havent seen any of the new episodes of Clone Wars so I didnt even know about Pre Viszla but after reading a bit about him, not liking him at all, armor of the other Mandies not true Death Watch armor, a black lightsaber? Where did he get this training from? Is this supposed to be the saber that eventually falls into the hands of the apprentice? Yuck. But yea this mini is Tor Viszla.
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I might even add something like Flurry or Vicious to represent his unpredictable and sporadic nature. The custom itself isn't bad, but seems to lack inspiration and variety. I might suggest instead using the Quartermaster, his pose is much easier to make unique.
EDIT: @DarthGreivous I had similar problems with how the Death Watch were represented. I suppose one possible way to explain the Shock Trooper Armor is to say that the main DW force that had the special armor died off, Pre Vizsla merely retained the mindset (but didn't bother with resurrecting the armor). The saber thing was a little wacked, but hey, it's the first canonical black lightsaber, that's gotta count for something.
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I chose this sculpt because it allowed for the gun. Also I repainted it entirely from top to bottom with all of Viszlas colors.
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I didn't have a problem with how the Mandalorians were represented in the CW. In fact, this latest 3 part story arc was probably one of the better runs within the series so far. I've never read any of the Karen Traviss helmet porn books, but I did read Bloodline in the Legacy series. However, I believe George Lucas always envisioned the Mandalorians (e.g. Boba Fett and Jango) as basically evil mercenaries rather than the noble savage treatment they get in the books. And the CW series outranks the novels in regards of canon. The Death Watch was still pretty ruthless and proved themselves capable warriors (however Obi-Wan having a hard time with them on multiple occasions was a bit out of character, considering he is one of the greatest Jedi in the Order). Thought the black-bladed lightsaber was a little silly, but whatever. Vizla could handle it ok, but wasn't nearly as skilled as a trained Jedi.
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yodaccm wrote:I didn't have a problem with how the Mandalorians were represented in the CW. In fact, this latest 3 part story arc was probably one of the better runs within the series so far. I've never read any of the Karen Traviss helmet porn books, but I did read Bloodline in the Legacy series. However, I believe George Lucas always envisioned the Mandalorians (e.g. Boba Fett and Jango) as basically evil mercenaries rather than the noble savage treatment they get in the books. And the CW series outranks the novels in regards of canon. The Death Watch was still pretty ruthless and proved themselves capable warriors (however Obi-Wan having a hard time with them on multiple occasions was a bit out of character, considering he is one of the greatest Jedi in the Order). Thought the black-bladed lightsaber was a little silly, but whatever. Vizla could handle it ok, but wasn't nearly as skilled as a trained Jedi. I find it funny how these Mandos(without beskar armor mind you) run up to Obi and knock his saber out of his hands. Then Obi has to rely on hand-to-hand combat, which he usually loses.
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funny thing is the death watch mini here is before the cartoon entirely when Jango was still a boy. So can anyone make some comments related to this mini and not the cartoon.
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great job, i like the sculpt. I have a TOr Viszla i made also. Darth Grievous wrote:funny thing is the death watch mini here is before the cartoon entirely when Jango was still a boy. So can anyone make some comments related to this mini and not the cartoon. sorry to go off topic but actualy jango fought against tor viszla heres the wookiepedia link http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Viszla
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Yea I know that, this mini is entirely based off of Jango from boyhood to growing up when Tor Viszla became scarred.
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