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OK, I have a couple questions based on a game that recently took place.
Squad #1) Republic Commando Sev, Republic Commando Boss, Mas Ameda, General Windu, General Aayla Secura, Captain Rex
Aayla Secura gives Sev Double Attack. Does General Windu, who grants 'Extra Attack' give Sev Triple Attack? Also, either way, when Boss moves and ends his turn, does Sev only get one attack, or does Double / Triple allow him to make multiple attacks even on Boss's granted attack? Also, Boss's CE is that when he's done, one character within six squares can make an attack, so does Mas Ameda's Booming Voice allow ANY Republic Commando to make the attack, even if they are further than 6 squares?
Squad #2) General Obi-Wan Kenobi, Qui Gon Jinn: Jedi Trainer, and a million Younglings
Qui Gon Jinn: Jedi Trainer gives the Younglings +4 attack because their printed attack is pathetic. If the Younglings travel in packs, General Obi-Wan gives them +4 to attack and +4 to defense. Does this give Younglings (which normally have a +2 attack) a +10 attack when they zerg someone? (I wouldn't think so, but my opponent swore the Younglings got +10)
Any feedback would be fantastic. I've only been playing 2 months, so I'm still learning.
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In the first question, yes Sev would effectively gain 'Triple' attack, because the definition of 'Extra Attack' specifically says that it stacks. Double/Triple/Extra only work on that charcater's turn though, so Sev would only get one shot when he makes the free one granted by Boss' CE (in addition, Sev wouldn't get Deadeye on the free shot either).
As for the younglings, you were correct. Both CEs grant a +4 bonus, so the stacking rules would apply, and the Youngling's would only be a +6 attack.
Tell your friend to use Qui-Gon and General Skywalker with his Youngling Swarms instead. Then with Momentum, they can get a +10 attack, and would do 30 damage as well. :P
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DemitriAlexander wrote:OK, I have a couple questions based on a game that recently took place.
Squad #1) Republic Commando Sev, Republic Commando Boss, Mas Ameda, General Windu, General Aayla Secura, Captain Rex
Aayla Secura gives Sev Double Attack. Does General Windu, who grants 'Extra Attack' give Sev Triple Attack? Also, either way, when Boss moves and ends his turn, does Sev only get one attack, or does Double / Triple allow him to make multiple attacks even on Boss's granted attack? Also, Boss's CE is that when he's done, one character within six squares can make an attack, so does Mas Ameda's Booming Voice allow ANY Republic Commando to make the attack, even if they are further than 6 squares?
Squad #2) General Obi-Wan Kenobi, Qui Gon Jinn: Jedi Trainer, and a million Younglings
Qui Gon Jinn: Jedi Trainer gives the Younglings +4 attack because their printed attack is pathetic. If the Younglings travel in packs, General Obi-Wan gives them +4 to attack and +4 to defense. Does this give Younglings (which normally have a +2 attack) a +10 attack when they zerg someone? (I wouldn't think so, but my opponent swore the Younglings got +10)
Any feedback would be fantastic. I've only been playing 2 months, so I'm still learning. Also to add on that whenever you grant a figure an immediate attack from a CE, extra attack or double attack/tripple would only still give the figure 1 attack, but having Twin would work, you would make the immediate attack, then you would make the Twin attack against the same target. Just a little hint.
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LoboStele wrote:In the first question, yes Sev would effectively gain 'Triple' attack, because the definition of 'Extra Attack' specifically says that it stacks. Double/Triple/Extra only work on that charcater's turn though, so Sev would only get one shot when he makes the free one granted by Boss' CE (in addition, Sev wouldn't get Deadeye on the free shot either).
As for the younglings, you were correct. Both CEs grant a +4 bonus, so the stacking rules would apply, and the Youngling's would only be a +6 attack.
Tell your friend to use Qui-Gon and General Skywalker with his Youngling Swarms instead. Then with Momentum, they can get a +10 attack, and would do 30 damage as well. :P Would Sev get Deadeye on his bonus attack if he didn't move during his normal turn? (ie: If he already went, and didn't move, and got Deadeye on his triple attack, would he get it with Boss's bonus attack?) Also, Momentum stacks with other attack bonuses? What about Opportunist? I am sure, through some strange combination, it would be possible to get a +4 attack, + Momentum, + Opportunist on a character. Since they both grant the same bonus (+4 attack, +10 damage) they wouldn't stack, right? Someone at my local gaming store told me bonuses never stack, and to only ever use the single highest bonus, which would suggest that you could never benefit from two +4 attack abilities / commander effects. Is he wrong?
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1. No. Deadeye only works on Sev's own turn, not on Boss's.
2. Different named abilities stack. This is covered in the Stacking and Commander Effects section of the glossary.
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