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Does it prevent Jerriko from gaining twin from a czerka? When reading it over, it seemed as similar as a Genoharadan gaining poison blade.
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It's completely different. One replaces turn, the other does not. Read the cards a little closer and if you are still confused let us know.
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Ah, I forgot about that part. Thanks!
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Based on what's in the Bloomilk Glossary here though (don't have the card in front of me), the use of the capital "D" would indeed indicate that it's a change to the base damage, and therefore he wouldn't be able to gain Twin from the Czerka anymore. Might be a good one to clarify with NickName.
The fact that it Replaces Turn has nothing to do with it. If you put Dannik in a squad with Whorm, he would most certainly get Twin even when using Probisces. He just wouldn't get the +10 damage on the 2nd attack.
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He would still get a twin from the Czerka. I think it has to specificaly say it's a change to damage not just a plus. I think he would also get twin even if replacing turn. Twin Attack is always Twin attack.
He wouldn't get the +10 on the second attack.
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Well, the precedent set by the GenoHaradan assassin is that the use of "+10 Damage" actually changes the damage stat on the card, whereas "+10 damage" just adds a bonus. That's why the Geno doesn't get Twin from the Czerka while adjacent, and why if he rolls a Crit it would do 40 instead.
The Glossary for Probisces here on Bloomilk lists it as "+10 Damage" with the capital "D", indicating it would be a change to the base Damage statistic, thereby making him not work with the Czerka for Twin.
But, like I said, probably double check with NickName on the WOTC forums. I double-checked the card, and it definitely has the capital D. Hard to say though, now that I look at it, because Cunning Attack is listed the same way...weird.
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LoboStele wrote:Well, the precedent set by the GenoHaradan assassin is that the use of "+10 Damage" actually changes the damage stat on the card, whereas "+10 damage" just adds a bonus. That's why the Geno doesn't get Twin from the Czerka while adjacent, and why if he rolls a Crit it would do 40 instead. I was under the impression that the reason the Geno doesn't get twin from a Czerka while adjacent was due to the fact that using poison blade makes his attacks melee so he would no longer be eligible for Blaster upgrade (which requires an ally with non-melee attacks).
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LoboStele wrote:Well, the precedent set by the GenoHaradan assassin is that the use of "+10 Damage" actually changes the damage stat on the card, whereas "+10 damage" just adds a bonus. That's why the Geno doesn't get Twin from the Czerka while adjacent, and why if he rolls a Crit it would do 40 instead.
The Glossary for Probisces here on Bloomilk lists it as "+10 Damage" with the capital "D", indicating it would be a change to the base Damage statistic, thereby making him not work with the Czerka for Twin.
But, like I said, probably double check with NickName on the WOTC forums. I double-checked the card, and it definitely has the capital D. Hard to say though, now that I look at it, because Cunning Attack is listed the same way...weird. As far as I'm concerned, there is no precedent about "D" vs "d", as there are way to many instances of "D" that don't modify the base damage. It causes confusion whenever it is brought up. Poisoned Blade was specifically addressed in the FAQ as modifying base damage when adjacent. As to the Czerka question, Jerriko gets twin, with +10 on the first attack only. http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75862/21846785/Czerka_Scientist&post_num=6#378374473I would love to have a verified list from Nickname of all the abilities and CEs that modify base damage. There are very few that aren't specifically spelled out on the card or in the glossary entries.
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swinefeld wrote:
I would love to have a verified list from Nickname of all the abilities and CEs that modify base damage. There are very few that aren't specifically spelled out on the card or in the glossary entries.
Blaster Poisoned Blade Shaper
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Why would the Poison Blade SA change the base damage? It was ruled a long time ago (in a galaxy far far away...) that any damages bonuses (cunning, opprotunist, etc) did not get multiplied by crits unless it specifically says so. No where on the Genoharderon Assasin's card does it say that the Poison Blade gets multiplied by crits.
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Read the glossary definition. It says that it does 20 damage instead of 10. Compare the wording to anything that grants a bonus to damage.
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The Celestial Warrior wrote:It's completely different. One replaces turn, the other does not. Read the cards a little closer and if you are still confused let us know. Lol, I should follow my own advice....
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EmporerDragon wrote:swinefeld wrote:
I would love to have a verified list from Nickname of all the abilities and CEs that modify base damage. There are very few that aren't specifically spelled out on the card or in the glossary entries.
Blaster Poisoned Blade Shaper Check - I knew those. Thanks  No to the Stormtrooper Commander's CE then? Rats 
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