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shatterpoint7
Posted: Saturday, March 6, 2010 4:51:36 AM
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There is little doubt that in a year, many of the prices for swm will drastically go down, w/ the end of the game (hopefully we can keep it alive) . I predict that the ones that will see the highest drop will be the minis that are great for playing the game, but don’t have the big “cool” factor, (general riekkan for example). There may even be a few minis that see an uptick in value b/c they have the “cool” factor, and w/ people desperate to get the ones they want to finish their collection (felcor and all the boba fetts). I know there are many who would disagree w/ me, but that’s my opinion.
EmporerDragon
Posted: Saturday, March 6, 2010 5:44:23 AM
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I doubt we'll see a very large drop. Look at the CCG: that game stopped being produced a decade ago and the products are still going for a decent amount.
urbanjedi
Posted: Saturday, March 6, 2010 5:53:47 AM
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And once they start creating V-sets you may see some prices go up.
Roque Saber
Posted: Saturday, March 6, 2010 6:13:53 AM
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urbanjedi wrote:
And once they start creating V-sets you may see some prices go up.


True that. Depending on how the Vsets are handled, (whether or not certain figs will be necessary as proxys, or even to prevent the trouble of making a custom) some pieces could stay highly priced. Hopefully not, but we'll just have to wait and see.
shatterpoint7
Posted: Saturday, March 6, 2010 7:40:31 AM
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ccg kept going, tcg fell flat on its face. im guessing swm will be somewhere in the middle.
creme_brule
Posted: Saturday, March 6, 2010 8:14:38 AM
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shatterpoint7 wrote:
ccg kept going, tcg fell flat on its face. im guessing swm will be somewhere in the middle.


i thinkit will stay alive IMO :)
brennan
Posted: Saturday, March 6, 2010 1:34:50 PM
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urbanjedi wrote:
And once they start creating V-sets you may see some prices go up.


What exactly is a V-set???
engineer
Posted: Saturday, March 6, 2010 1:45:21 PM
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brennan wrote:
What exactly is a V-set???

Virtual set. You can expect to start to see stuff after the last WOTC set is released.
thodafett
Posted: Saturday, March 6, 2010 1:49:05 PM
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It will be a way to finally get what the fans have wanted all along!
lukey84
Posted: Saturday, March 6, 2010 2:06:42 PM
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agreed ^^
Mitth'raw'nuruodo
Posted: Saturday, March 6, 2010 2:17:51 PM
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*starts chanting* Vo-xyn! Vo-xyn! Vo-xyn!...
engineer
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Mitth'raw'nuruodo wrote:
*starts chanting* Vo-xyn! Vo-xyn! Vo-xyn!...

TLT (The Lost Twenty) put out stats for a Voxyn about 2 years ago. There already is a great DDM large that fits the bill for the mini.
AdmiralMotti89
Posted: Saturday, March 6, 2010 2:59:44 PM
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FWIW, I bought stuff up in droves on eBay the first 10 or so days after the announcements. Dirt Cheap. They were so cheap that I used an intentionally incomplete sentence. I put in junk bids (ridiculously low just so I can see what it went for later) on 3 Kyle JBMs and won them all.

Now, prices seem to be going back UP. I'm kicking myself for not getting a boba merc for 14, now he's 18+. Same for VAU, he's up from those weeks in price as well. Saying we all know the prices will go down is neither true from the angles that we knwo it will happen nor that it will happen.
Mickey
Posted: Monday, March 8, 2010 1:11:01 AM
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Prices will continue to drop on sites like ebay. It has done that for almost every game that has retired. V-sets are not going to affect pricing on those sites and I doubt much v-sets will have that much an impact on the game. Since there will be no official ruling body over the game (DCI will be dead) those sets are going to be up to the venue to accept. If our location is typical of others we have already seen a drop off in players. I'm afraid only the hardcore are going to keep this game alive.
AdmiralMotti89
Posted: Monday, March 8, 2010 7:10:30 AM
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Mickey wrote:
V-sets are not going to affect pricing on those sites


This isn't even an opinion, it's just wrong. Look at the SWCCG. Cards that were worthless from inception (especially the 2-player introductory box uniques) suddenly had a use and therefore demand from the many that still played the game. In fact, the fact that prices will be affected is one possibility that might lead to abuse by V-set designers. For example, one might buy up a ton of Vader DJ's and then sell for a profit after the alternate card of him as a beast is released. HOWEVER, from what I have seen with my interactions with the design team, I don't think that will happen. That part is opinion.

Look at EVIDENCE next time before spouting what can only be either lies or ignorance (I hope the latter). There is absolutely no substantiation of anyhting said in the post before this one, it's just a bunch of statements without any support. The SWCCG example proves the post wrong. I know usually we get into matters of opinion here, but in this case history speaks loud and true.
Demosthenes
Posted: Monday, March 8, 2010 7:25:19 AM
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Selfishly, I do hope that prices on eBay begin to drop, though I hope the product is still coming from game stores and not individuals leaving the game and selling off their collections. That way, game stores stay in the business of selling SWM, we retain more individuals in the game, and I get some cheap VRs to add to my currently small collection. =)
Pericles
Posted: Monday, March 8, 2010 9:02:45 AM
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Being the last set produced by WotC, I'm interested to see if they take a conservative approach on the print run for MotF. If the scarcity were increased, it might be enough to keep the prices high despite a reduced demand pool. We'll know soon enough...
Mickey
Posted: Monday, March 8, 2010 10:03:28 AM
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You're right that's my opinion and your reply is your opinion Flapper

V-sets are going to only be used where they are allowed. If they are allowed by the group taking over regionals and GenCon then they will be allowed at the national level. They will only be allowed at local levels if those individual groups approve them. I don't know if they will be used at our venue. It hasn't been discussed. The way the numbers are dropping off I don't even know how long SWM will be played at our location. This is of course all my own opinion.

As for prices. All you have to do is look at almost every game that has been discontinued. Prices for those games drop on ebay which is the only place I care to price because I know what I can get there. Dealers don't mean alot to me because they often inflate thier prices. BTW your opinion is based off of one game.
Mickey
Posted: Monday, March 8, 2010 10:27:22 AM
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I don't mind being insulted. I'd rather be insulted and the issue not turn into a huge ordeal on here. I have been watching ebay prices on SWM. When the announcement was made there were floods of minis put up for sale. Just recently someone put up almost every VR starting at 99 cents per. I didn't watch them all to end but most of them were not being bid on.

How has D&D mini prices faired since its demise? I have been watching Mechwarrior clix prices because I have been trying to pick up a few for trying out the game since I'm a huge b'tech fan. A whole collection of 1000 pieces went for $250 which included the shipping. I know Heroclix went down when that game ended briefly. My cousin has several 1000 figs for that game and told me the prices had dropped off alot.

So I do have some "proof" albeit word of mouth and what I have witnessed on ebay.

As for v-sets. I'm glad you are excited about them. Personally I'm not. That's not meant as a bait. I'm also a collector so just having stats that go to existing figs is not very exciting to me.
AdmiralMotti89
Posted: Monday, March 8, 2010 10:42:21 AM
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Mickey wrote:
BTW your opinion is based off of one game.


Which is the one game to have a solid fan support long after its "death." Go over to Gamers. You'll see the support we have there already is nothing to sneeze at.
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