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The more I look at his card, the more I realise he gives Republic squads an epic counter to super stealth squads! Now, I don't know how much action super stealth squads see in the competitive meta, but my brothers quite like to use it. So for me, he will see much action. He just makes it that much more risky to field SSed up RCs or vong or storm commandos. He is probably one of my favourite pieces from this set.
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considering that its a trap is the only real counter to nombomb yeah i def see the piece seeing some play. dam diplomats
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I agree. This is one of my favorite figures in the set (great combo of abilities, but not overpowering).
Don't forget Disruptive and Force Sense and Lightsaber Through 5 as good defensive options against super stealth (though Force Sense will not work on the Vong because they are Force immune). It's A Trap is definitely a major one, but not the only one.
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tonythetoyman wrote:I agree. This is one of my favorite figures in the set (great combo of abilities, but not overpowering).
Don't forget Disruptive and Force Sense and Lightsaber Through 5 as good defensive options against super stealth (though Force Sense will not work on the Vong because they are Force immune). It's A Trap is definitely a major one, but not the only one. Yeah but at 5 points he will replace the Camaasi noble in republic squads. I just have a picture of someone setting up their superstealthed minis up in the centre of Mos Eisley, only to have him run out into them and expose them. Ha.
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wannabe mexican wrote:Yeah but at 5 points he will replace the Camaasi noble in republic squads. I just have a picture of someone setting up their superstealthed minis up in the centre of Mos Eisley, only to have him run out into them and expose them. Ha. I have to agree with this. While the Imperial Dignitary had some damage on the Camaasi it also got saddled with Melee. The Rodian is 100% improvement over the Camaasi in any Republic squad because for the same cost you get 10 hp, +1 Defense and anti-stealth capability. I also like the effects that can hit this (Queen Amidala) and don't hit the Camassi.
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StevenO wrote:
I have to agree with this. While the Imperial Dignitary had some damage on the Camaasi it also got saddled with Melee. The Rodian is 100% improvement over the Camaasi in any Republic squad because for the same cost you get 10 hp, +1 Defense and anti-stealth capability. I also like the effects that can hit this (Queen Amidala) and don't hit the Camassi.
As for the Rodian being 100% better than the Dignitary, it depends on how you use them. I personally like to run my Diplomats up adjacent to non-Melee pieces that have multiple attacks. I then force them to move around me, thus giving me an AoO which is perfect for the Dignitary (especially if he's given Opportunist from Thrawn so he's +4 for 20). The Rodian won't get an AoO unless you have Yularen in the squad...
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jedispyder wrote:StevenO wrote:
I have to agree with this. While the Imperial Dignitary had some damage on the Camaasi it also got saddled with Melee. The Rodian is 100% improvement over the Camaasi in any Republic squad because for the same cost you get 10 hp, +1 Defense and anti-stealth capability. I also like the effects that can hit this (Queen Amidala) and don't hit the Camassi.
As for the Rodian being 100% better than the Dignitary, it depends on how you use them. I personally like to run my Diplomats up adjacent to non-Melee pieces that have multiple attacks. I then force them to move around me, thus giving me an AoO which is perfect for the Dignitary (especially if he's given Opportunist from Thrawn so he's +4 for 20). The Rodian won't get an AoO unless you have Yularen in the squad... Wow lol nowhere did he say the rodian was better than the dignitary, he said it was better than the camaasi.
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Haha, I misread the line! Can't believe I did that, happens too often. But yeah, the Rodian is 100% better than the Camaasi, hands down. Just like the Dignitary is 100% better than the Camaasi as well.
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Yeah, the new Rodian is crazy good. He blows the Caamasi away.
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jedispyder wrote:Haha, I misread the line! Can't believe I did that, happens too often. But yeah, the Rodian is 100% better than the Camaasi, hands down. Just like the Dignitary is 100% better than the Camaasi as well. Rodian > Camaasi, Rodian better in nearly all areas within faction. Dignitary:Camaasi, the Dignitary is certain nice when it has its own attacks but the Camaasi can make RANGED attacks with the right support such as MiThrawn and/or Jabba. Both pieces have their uses.
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The Rodian is good for Republic because he is Rex's best friend.
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jedispyder wrote:StevenO wrote:
I have to agree with this. While the Imperial Dignitary had some damage on the Camaasi it also got saddled with Melee. The Rodian is 100% improvement over the Camaasi in any Republic squad because for the same cost you get 10 hp, +1 Defense and anti-stealth capability. I also like the effects that can hit this (Queen Amidala) and don't hit the Camassi.
As for the Rodian being 100% better than the Dignitary, it depends on how you use them. I personally like to run my Diplomats up adjacent to non-Melee pieces that have multiple attacks. I then force them to move around me, thus giving me an AoO which is perfect for the Dignitary (especially if he's given Opportunist from Thrawn so he's +4 for 20). The Rodian won't get an AoO unless you have Yularen in the squad... Just a correction. The Imp Dignitary's Opportunist and Thrawn's opportunist do not stack. It's only +4 for +10 damage, with a total of 20 dmg. Unless that is what you meant... :P
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Mitth'raw'nuruodo wrote:Just a correction. The Imp Dignitary's Opportunist and Thrawn's opportunist do not stack. It's only +4 for +10 damage, with a total of 20 dmg. Unless that is what you meant... :P Crud, I thought that the Dignitary has Deceptive and not Opportunist. My bad, lol! He's got base 10, so I knew it would be +4 for 20 damage just got the situation wrong.
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And with Thrawn, the Caamasi can take AoO's as well. In fact, the Caamasi can always take AoO's, it's just that in most cases they don't mean anything. Also, the Caamasi is a shooter, not melee. I tend to almost never use the Dignitary over the Caamasi in Imperial builds (unless I'm not using Opp Thrawn).
As for the Rodian, it's fine and all, but seriously, part of the advantage of diplomat is using them to deal with very specific builds (i.e. Lobot). They will never replace the Caamasi in that regard, and hence are not significantly better than it. Sure, if you need one (Rep build that can't deal with Stealth), then including one in the main build is a good idea. But that's hardly a universal need. The Rodian is a fine addition, as it's somewhat different than other It's a Trap pieces, so I like it. But it's not nearly "100%" better for the republic. As I said before, being fringe allows the Caamasi to be brought in as a reinforcement, which is more than equal to having "It's a Trap" and being built into the squad.
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Yeah, maybe in some factions it would be a large boost (if it was fringe it would just replace the Caamasi for the most part) but Republic wasn't exactly hurting for an answer to stealth. Most Rep builds are based around strong melee and/or swapping, both of which just shrug at stealth. Nombomb is easy to defeat if you run Yobuck past all of the scrubs and kill Nom Anor first.
Mandos or maybe Rebels would have benefited more, I think. In any event stealth/superstealth is far from being a gamebreaker; it's really more a nuisance.
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