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OK so i have a new army: involves Republic commandos and Bacara.  Bacara's CE goes like this: "Characters in your squad with Order 66 and Stealth (including this character) and who have cover cannot be targeted by nonadjacent enemies. "  Now, if someone was to use a Force Sense against this, would my ability to be cloaked be negated?  Personally i think no.  Because his commander effect states that if the characters has stealth, then he gets cloaked. Help
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Yes, if Stealth is lost, Super Stealth/Cloaked is also lost, because without stealth, they no longer qualify for Bacara's CE. Same goes to anyone that grants bonuses to characters with stealth.
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Actually, Force Sense does nothing on Cloaked. Cloaked has absolutely nothing to do with Stealth, and Force Sense removes Stealth. Now if an ability removed cover (such as Lightsaber Throw 5) then Cloaked would be affected. And Bacarra and followers do not gain Cloaked, they gain Super Stealth. But the reason Force Sense does work is because it erases the word Stealth from your card.
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Just make sure you understand the difference between Super Stealth and Cloaked/Force Cloak.
Super Stealth needs "Stealth" Special ability and "Cover" plus the CE to activate. It can be effected by Force sense because Force Sense turns off "Stealth" SA, though the enemies still get the cover.
Cloaked/Force Cloak are the abilites only need cover to activate. They can't be effected by Force Sense.
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It doesn't state that they receive cloaked, this ability was before cloaked even came out. When force sense is activated, it removes stealth. Without stealth, the CE has no one to effect.
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Yeah i know that the character came before the word "cloaked".
Thnx for answering my question.
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You may want to check out Nickname's Stealth Guide to see why the Super Stealth CE's are different than Cloaked. It is a key difference that you need to think about first.
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